haha that game is fun, i rented it this weekend and was at the forest for the 2nd time with the girl, the story is funny, and the stupid stuff scare me the most, like the bunny in the girl room, well ull see after the half of the game, that bunny made me jump, and in the hospital, in one of the 20 room on the 2nd floor, well ull see, u cant really miss it lol, its about the girl, that **** made me jump, ill prolly rent it another time to end the game, but i used a walktrough so i know much of the stuff that happen, i find combat/puzzles in silent hill a waste of time, all i want to see is the weird stuff and the story, i dont care about stupid puzzle taking hrs to do, well in sh4 theres not really any hard puzzle... "the room" thing make the game 543534 better than the 3 sh before, i wasnt really in silent hill, but sh4 is really great