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[VideoJinx]

Okay, so earlier today me and lion were talking about modeling Skills and Experience and which one is better then the other..

Then after i got my haircut i cameback to the pc and this is the convo we had..

rofl I was laughing so hard during this convo... then when then it was over i couldn't believe what just happened.. so i read it again.. and it made me laugh even harder
Lol, <3 lion but seriously dont get pissed so easily =(

LionHeart******** says:
exp >skill
*********VideoJinx******** says:
lol no...
********LionHeart******** says:
you suck ._.
*********VideoJinx******** says:
10 years of making nub models < 1 year of making super pro models
*********VideoJinx******** says:
skill winz =p
********LionHeart******** says:
that's not what I meant your boob -_-
********LionHeart******** says:
you are slow minded seriously -_-
*********VideoJinx******** says:
thatz wha i mean
*********VideoJinx******** says:
skill owns exp
*********VideoJinx******** says:
altho u need exp to gain some skill
********LionHeart******** says:
without exp there is no xkill
*********VideoJinx******** says:
DUh
********LionHeart******** says:
you boob -_-
*********VideoJinx******** says:
u could have 10yrs of exp and be sup duper pro
********LionHeart******** says:
now stfu and go to sleep -_- I'm tired
*********VideoJinx******** says:
but when u go apply for a job
*********VideoJinx******** says:
if u cant remember anything
*********VideoJinx******** says:
u have no skill
*********VideoJinx******** says:
u no get hired
********LionHeart******** says:
arghh nvm, you are sooo not listening to me
*********VideoJinx******** says:
ROFL
*********VideoJinx******** says:
i win !
*********VideoJinx******** says:
u know it
*********VideoJinx******** says:
i told u exp is need to get skill
*********VideoJinx******** says:
but skill pwns exp
********LionHeart******** says:
I would insult you but you are a friend -_-
*********VideoJinx******** says:
even taht guy agreed <_<
********LionHeart******** says:
don't give a ****
*********VideoJinx******** says:
rofl..
*********VideoJinx******** says:
dood..
*********VideoJinx******** says:
its nothin to get mad over..
********LionHeart******** says:
I'm not mad just pissed off
*********VideoJinx******** says:
lol why
*********VideoJinx******** says:
btw my face is turning out pretty well o.o
********LionHeart******** says:
I told you that you aren't listening to what I say and just say uslees random facts
********LionHeart******** says:
useless*
*********VideoJinx******** says:
i did
*********VideoJinx******** says:
i said what u sadi..
*********VideoJinx******** says:
u need exp to get skill
*********VideoJinx******** says:
but skills pwn exp =o
********LionHeart******** says:
retard -_- sry for that
*********VideoJinx******** says:
<__________________<
*********VideoJinx******** says:
<____________<
********LionHeart******** says:
how can skill beat exp if skill won't exist
*********VideoJinx******** says:
becuz end the end
*********VideoJinx******** says:
skill is what matters
*********VideoJinx******** says:
not exp
********LionHeart******** says:
skill can't exist without exp
********LionHeart******** says:
but exp can exist without skill
********LionHeart******** says:
thus exp is far more important
*********VideoJinx******** says:
but exp is worthless
*********VideoJinx******** says:
without skill
********LionHeart******** says:
but it's better than nothing,witch is skills case
*********VideoJinx******** says:
u can practice math for 10 yrs
*********VideoJinx******** says:
but if u dunno how to add
*********VideoJinx******** says:
you've wasted 10 yrs
********LionHeart******** says:
that doesn't make sense
*********VideoJinx******** says:
...
*********VideoJinx******** says:
practice is the exp
********LionHeart******** says:
you can say the same thing about skill
*********VideoJinx******** says:
skill is the result =o
********LionHeart******** says:
thus it has no meaning
*********VideoJinx******** says:
lol?
*********VideoJinx******** says:
u go get a job with skills =O
*********VideoJinx******** says:
not exp =o
********LionHeart******** says:
and that's what I said skill is the result witch means it can't exist without the base -_-
********LionHeart******** says:
actualy with both
********LionHeart******** says:
you boob
*********VideoJinx******** says:
talent can exist tho =o
*********VideoJinx******** says:
booya
********LionHeart******** says:
boob
*********VideoJinx******** says:
lol
********LionHeart******** says:
you need alot of exp to make your portofolio
********LionHeart******** says:
Skill comes 2nd
********LionHeart******** says:
cuz usualy it's under exp
********LionHeart******** says:
that's all the portofolio is about
*********VideoJinx******** says:
practice = exp, exp creates Skill, Skill is the gold(the result of hard work that you'll use to buy food)aka a job =o
*********VideoJinx******** says:
skill = mo impotant
********LionHeart******** says:
but skill will always be lower than exp
*********VideoJinx******** says:
cuz its the reason u get exp
********LionHeart******** says:
because the more exp you get the beter is your skill
*********VideoJinx******** says:
nonononono
********LionHeart******** says:
witch means skill is a variable of exp
*********VideoJinx******** says:
depends on how what exp u have
********LionHeart******** says:
now I can give you tons of useless examples but I won't
*********VideoJinx******** says:
exp on bad stuff
*********VideoJinx******** says:
= not so great x.x
********LionHeart******** says:
witch means your skill is lower
*********VideoJinx******** says:
x.x
*********VideoJinx******** says:
lol
********LionHeart******** says:
you are contradicting yourself -_-
*********VideoJinx******** says:
no im not
********LionHeart******** says:
and be serious for a second
********LionHeart******** says:
you just said you can have exp in bad stuff witch means bad skill
********LionHeart******** says:
witch proves my state of skill being a variable of exp
*********VideoJinx******** says:
when i said that
*********VideoJinx******** says:
thats just like me saying
*********VideoJinx******** says:
10 years of math
*********VideoJinx******** says:
and cant add
********LionHeart******** says:
as I said don't give me ****y examples
*********VideoJinx******** says:
u practice math improperly
*********VideoJinx******** says:
and u gotta bad result x.x
********LionHeart******** says:
talk about 3D modeling don't go offtopic with other examples
*********VideoJinx******** says:
k..
*********VideoJinx******** says:
u practice
*********VideoJinx******** says:
low poly
*********VideoJinx******** says:
when your goal is high poly =o
*********VideoJinx******** says:
and movies
*********VideoJinx******** says:
for 10 yrs
*********VideoJinx******** says:
in the end
*********VideoJinx******** says:
u still cant make high poly
********LionHeart******** says:
that means you're a retard not about skill
*********VideoJinx******** says:
lol
*********VideoJinx******** says:
its bad exp
*********VideoJinx******** says:
same thing lol
********LionHeart******** says:
say something that would actualy happen
********LionHeart******** says:
and bad exp means bad skill
********LionHeart******** says:
am I right?
*********VideoJinx******** says:
nooo
*********VideoJinx******** says:
cuz its not that simple =o
********LionHeart******** says:
and be serios, stop with the 2year olds l ols
********LionHeart******** says:
yes it is
*********VideoJinx******** says:
lol?
*********VideoJinx******** says:
whaat..
*********VideoJinx******** says:
its not seriously
********LionHeart******** says:
the better the exp the better that skill
*********VideoJinx******** says:
u can learn from a book
*********VideoJinx******** says:
for 10 yrs
********LionHeart******** says:
and?
********LionHeart******** says:
whats your point?
*********VideoJinx******** says:
and be extremly good at the book
*********VideoJinx******** says:
but guess what
*********VideoJinx******** says:
over those 10 yrs
*********VideoJinx******** says:
new books came out
*********VideoJinx******** says:
u cant do whats in the new ones
*********VideoJinx******** says:
=|
*********VideoJinx******** says:
and now
*********VideoJinx******** says:
you dont have the skills
********LionHeart******** says:
yea witch means your skill in the new books suck
********LionHeart******** says:
yep
********LionHeart******** says:
thats what I just said
********LionHeart******** says:
for the past 30 min
*********VideoJinx******** says:
cuz u wasted too much time on the same book =o
********LionHeart******** says:
yea, as I said bad exp=bad skill
********LionHeart******** says:
wasted exp=bad skill
*********VideoJinx******** says:
.....................
*********VideoJinx******** says:
lol...
********LionHeart******** says:
any way you put it it's the same
********LionHeart******** says:
and act mature for once and stop with the lols and gifs
*********VideoJinx******** says:
lol im seriulisy laughin ..
********LionHeart******** says:
prove me wrong without contradicting yourself
*********VideoJinx******** says:
dood..
*********VideoJinx******** says:
im not
********LionHeart******** says:
I know
*********VideoJinx******** says:
i said the same thing
*********VideoJinx******** says:
each time
********LionHeart******** says:
yea and I proven you wrong
*********VideoJinx******** says:
just with dif examples
*********VideoJinx******** says:
nope
*********VideoJinx******** says:
cuz bad = too simple
*********VideoJinx******** says:
of a label
*********VideoJinx******** says:
for exp
********LionHeart******** says:
so doesn't bad exp=bad skill?
*********VideoJinx******** says:
yes
*********VideoJinx******** says:
bad exp
*********VideoJinx******** says:
its not specific enough =o
********LionHeart******** says:
wasted exp=bad skill in some other stuff
********LionHeart******** says:
ok, you give me specific and I'll answer
*********VideoJinx******** says:
wasted exp doesn't = bad skill
********LionHeart******** says:
thats why I said other stuff
*********VideoJinx******** says:
wasted exp means uve been practicing the wrong stuff x.x
********LionHeart******** says:
thats why I ****ing said other stuff -_- I said that twice and you keep on going
*********VideoJinx******** says:
rooofl
********LionHeart******** says:
at least read what I say
*********VideoJinx******** says:
i did
********LionHeart******** says:
and don't act like a 2 year old
*********VideoJinx******** says:
im saying what ive been sayin x.x
********LionHeart******** says:
I know
*********VideoJinx******** says:
..........
********LionHeart******** says:
*********VideoJinx******** says:
im saying what ive been sayin x.x
********LionHeart******** says:
now does this make any sense whatsover?
********LionHeart******** says:
whatsoever*
*********VideoJinx******** says:
yea
*********VideoJinx******** says:
same concept
*********VideoJinx******** says:
dif examples
********LionHeart******** says:
you said that before
*********VideoJinx******** says:
exACTLy
********LionHeart******** says:
and I proven you wrong
*********VideoJinx******** says:
ROFL
********LionHeart******** says:
I know
*********VideoJinx******** says:
********LionHeart******** says:
you said that before
********LionHeart******** says:
yea
********LionHeart******** says:
cuz you realy did
*********VideoJinx******** says:
..........
********LionHeart******** says:
*********VideoJinx******** says:
im saying what ive been sayin x.x
********LionHeart******** says:
now does this make any sense whatsover?
********LionHeart******** says:
********LionHeart******** says:
what are you doing?
*********VideoJinx******** says:
read what i just posted
*********VideoJinx******** says:
lol
********LionHeart******** says:
I quoted you
*********VideoJinx******** says:
i just quoted u too
********LionHeart******** says:
for what reason?
*********VideoJinx******** says:
to show u
********LionHeart******** says:
show me what
*********VideoJinx******** says:
*********VideoJinx******** says:
im saying what ive been sayin x.x
********LionHeart******** says:
you suck at arguing -_-
*********VideoJinx******** says:
********LionHeart******** says:
now does this make any sense whatsover?
********LionHeart******** says:
********LionHeart******** says:
yea witch doesn't prove any point
********LionHeart******** says:
how does this prove your point?
*********VideoJinx******** says:
*********VideoJinx******** says:
same concept
*********VideoJinx******** says:
dif examples
********LionHeart******** says:
*********VideoJinx******** says:
you said that before
*********VideoJinx******** says:
exACTLy
********LionHeart******** says:
and I proven you wrong
********LionHeart******** says:
huh?
********LionHeart******** says:
man wtf are you doing?
********LionHeart******** says:
stop being a retard for once
*********VideoJinx******** says:
ahahah ?
********LionHeart******** says:
and prove your point
*********VideoJinx******** says:
u still dont see it?
*********VideoJinx******** says:
ahahhaahahahah
********LionHeart******** says:
=.=
********LionHeart******** says:
what is it?
*********VideoJinx******** says:
omg rofl
********LionHeart******** says:
is there something I'm mising?
*********VideoJinx******** says:
k look
*********VideoJinx******** says:
i said
*********VideoJinx******** says:
ive been saying what ive been saying
*********VideoJinx******** says:
and this
*********VideoJinx******** says:
is what u said
********LionHeart******** says:
yea
********LionHeart******** says:
I quoted you proving you make no sense
*********VideoJinx******** says:
********LionHeart******** says:
now does this make any sense whatsover?
********LionHeart******** says:
I added even VideoJinx says
********LionHeart******** says:
want me to add quote tags or what
********LionHeart******** says:
Yea what you said didn't had any sense
*********VideoJinx******** says:
dont type yet =o
********LionHeart******** says:
that's wat I meant
*********VideoJinx******** says:
dont type =o
*********VideoJinx******** says:
let me show u =)
*********VideoJinx******** says:
********LionHeart******** says:
now does this make any sense whatsover?
*********VideoJinx******** says:
now after that
*********VideoJinx******** says:
i said
********LionHeart******** says:
retard -_-
*********VideoJinx******** says:
i said this
*********VideoJinx******** says:
VideoJinx******** says:
yea
*********VideoJinx******** says:
same concept
*********VideoJinx******** says:
dif examples
********LionHeart******** says:
what does that have to do about what I just said
********LionHeart******** says:
it still has no meaning
*********VideoJinx******** says:
then..
*********VideoJinx******** says:
you said this
*********VideoJinx******** says:
********LionHeart******** says:
you said that before
*********VideoJinx******** says:
exACTLy
********LionHeart******** says:
and I proven you wrong
********LionHeart******** says:
you may have given it one after the chat but before it just didn't had one
*********VideoJinx******** says:
rofl
********LionHeart******** says:
and I seriously proven you wrong at every example
*********VideoJinx******** says:
dont ignore it =p
*********VideoJinx******** says:
u saw it
*********VideoJinx******** says:
ahhaha
********LionHeart******** says:
...what?
*********VideoJinx******** says:
scroll up
*********VideoJinx******** says:
just read lol
********LionHeart******** says:
I still don't get what you are meaning, I proven you wrong didn't I?
*********VideoJinx******** says:
lol..
********LionHeart******** says:
ok I scrolled I only see quotes
*********VideoJinx******** says:
forget it ahhahaha
********LionHeart******** says:
and you still haven't given me a "specific" example like mine was too simple "bad"
********LionHeart******** says:
I'm waiting for it
*********VideoJinx******** says:
roflz.
*********VideoJinx******** says:
i already told ya =p
*********VideoJinx******** says:
bad is too general
********LionHeart******** says:
and give me an example that's not too general
*********VideoJinx******** says:
wha ?
*********VideoJinx******** says:
no reason 2
*********VideoJinx******** says:
=o
********LionHeart******** says:
prove that there are other things that aren't general as bad
********LionHeart******** says:
so give me an example, if you even know one that I couldn't comprehend
********LionHeart******** says:
well?
*********VideoJinx******** says:
specifics
*********VideoJinx******** says:
blue is blue
*********VideoJinx******** says:
bad can mean good/bad =o
*********VideoJinx******** says:
whalla
********LionHeart******** says:
about the subject
*********VideoJinx******** says:
rofl
********LionHeart******** says:
specific at experience
*********VideoJinx******** says:
i told u <<_<
********LionHeart******** says:
you can't say blue experience can you?
*********VideoJinx******** says:
specific exp = this
********LionHeart******** says:
:| what
*********VideoJinx******** says:
when u spend 10yrs on exp that u dont need.
*********VideoJinx******** says:
thats specific =o
********LionHeart******** says:
yea thats why I said it's bad skill for other stuff
*********VideoJinx******** says:
and can be catagorized under "wasted exp"
********LionHeart******** says:
and I'm right doesn't mater how general it is
********LionHeart******** says:
yea
*********VideoJinx******** says:
bad exp, Bad* is a General catagory
*********VideoJinx******** says:
with many specifics =o..
*********VideoJinx******** says:
its not specific =o
*********VideoJinx******** says:
bad can mean good =o
********LionHeart******** says:
wasted exp= not being able to do all the new stuff that you added in your example, while your skill is still good at the old part, at the new parts your skill is bad
********LionHeart******** says:
am I right?
*********VideoJinx******** says:
bleh..
*********VideoJinx******** says:
forget it
*********VideoJinx******** says:
ill let u calm down =o
********LionHeart******** says:
prove me
*********VideoJinx******** says:
u r 2 mad lol
********LionHeart******** says:
****head -_-
*********VideoJinx******** says:
ahahhahaha
********LionHeart******** says:
prove me wrong
*********VideoJinx******** says:
nope
********LionHeart******** says:
great
*********VideoJinx******** says:
cuz u dont wanna listen =p
********LionHeart******** says:
then it's setled
********LionHeart******** says:
I win
*********VideoJinx******** says:
rgr
*********VideoJinx******** says:
u r champion


LOL So what do you think pwns the other? Skill Or Experience?

 

[DaRkOwNs]

i know this is your "hilarious" conversation thread but i want to point this out

when your fighting someone you dont follow and predict movements based of of skill, its the experience of fighting that person. the same goes for everything else out of the geek plane of existence.

and thats the very reason ive beaten you well over a hundred times

 

[VideoJinx]

lol dark, but you have to keep the topic on MODELING, modeling skills vs modling Exp, not fighting =p and i mean 3D models

 

[DJ-Ready]

You cant have skill without experience. But you can have experience without having skill (as in, you tried a lot of times but still suck ass) so I guess skill > exp.

 

[swobj]

i know this is your "hilarious" conversation thread but i want to point this out

when your fighting someone you dont follow and predict movements based of of skill, its the experience of fighting that person. the same goes for everything else out of the geek plane of existence.

and thats the very reason ive beaten you well over a hundred times

Well thats completely invalid.
If youre fighting someone you need skill to beat someone because you don't always fight the same person everytime, and for that matter people don't always keep the same techniques either. Even if you do have experience, it doesn't mean you won the fight. You need skill to be able to fight well. Therefore skills>exp

 

[LionHeart]

You still lack the power of arguing me without resorting to others.

Plus the beter the exp in something the better the skill at it.

 

[Adaptus]

Skill = experience.

Think about that for a while.

 

[JasonX]

Expperience make's skills. so i guess Exp Pwns Skills

 

[MC]

You still lack the power of arguing me without resorting to others.

Plus the beter the exp in something the better the skill at it.

No, that's not how it works. Skill comes with experience, experience is based upon practice. If you were to say that skill is better than experience, then you're not making any sense. Skill is obtained through experience/practice, it's not given you to automatically unless you are naturally talented. However, even though you spent years practicing something, doesn't mean you obtained any skills.

 

[LionHeart]

No, that's not how it works. Skill comes with experience, experience is based upon practice. If you were to say that skill is better than experience, then you're not making any sense. Skill is obtained through experience/practice, it's not given you to automatically unless you are naturally talented. However, even though you spent years practicing something, doesn't mean you obtained any skills.

Yea, so exp is like a base of the skill right?
And I don't think someoen could be naturaly talanted at 3D modeling.
And if you wasted your experience,like didn't do anything right, then the skill would be at a low point also.

 

[MC]

Yea, so exp is like a base of the skill right?
And I don't think someoen could be naturaly talanted at 3D modeling.
And if you wasted your experience,like didn't do anything right, then the skill would be at a low point also.

Experience is the bases for skill. You just don't become automatically proficient at something without practicing.

There are people who are naturally talented at modeling. While they are unable to produce a high poly, clean, A+ quality model, they learn fast and gain a lot of ground over a short period of time.

 

[.Guzzie.]

In my opinion Exp > Skill. Sorry, but im going with the Rumanian dude.

Seriously, you have to have an IQ of 1 + be retarded if you can't make a high quality model after 10 years of modelling. Can you see where i'm comming from?

Skill is just having a natural talent for the thing itself.

Experience can earn skill, whilst skill can't earn experience. Thats what I think.

-Guzzie

 

[Mr.Lukyas]

No skill, no exp is going to be coz U can't do a job then. So skill>exp

 

[MC]

Seriously, you have to have an IQ of 1 + be retarded if you can't make a high quality model after 10 years of modelling. Can you see where i'm comming from?

No, I don't see where you're coming from. Just because someone spent ten years of modeling and was unable to produce a high quality model, doesn't mean they are retarded. Some people just can't do certain things at all, which of course isn't their fault unless it was deliberate.

No skill, no exp is going to be coz U can't do a job then. So skill>exp

So, where do you get the skill from?

 

[.Guzzie.]

MC, seriously lol!! We're talking 10 years!!! TEN YEARS!

Ten years is a very long time, i've only lived for 14.

Anyways-If you mix Skill and EXP with sport. Exp will come out easily. You got those brilliant soccer players/football who will go on forever talking about how they'd go out in the streets kicking the ball everyday. Now they're brilliant earning 1 Million a week.

Arh, I'm getting dragged, but still...it seems so obvious that Exp> Skill. Thats why we got to freaking school for 12 years ++ >_<

-Guzzie

 

[swobj]

Just because you spend a lot of time at something doesnt automatically mean that youll become super great at it...

 

[VideoJinx]

Whaat!?! skill > exp. This is why...


Lets say i wanna go work for a company called "Epic Games". They're looking for someone who model high poly and high quality models without taking years to do so..


When u apply for a job they wanna see some experience just so know that uve done this before.(altho this is only a bonus).

While if u dont have much experience and u can show them EXACTLY what they are looking for top notch qualities in a short time ect. They'll want u.



Now if u cant model for poo, and u have lots of experience at making "Okay" models then they wouldnt want u =|.

also.. You need practice(experience) to GAIN skill. but you woudln't practice in the first place if u didn't WANT the skill. So skill > exp

 

[MC]

Whaat!?! skill > exp. This is why...


Lets say i wanna go work for a company called "Epic Games". They're looking for someone who model high poly and high quality models without taking years to do so..


When u apply for a job they wanna see some experience just so know that uve done this before.(altho this is only a bonus).

While if u dont have much experience and u can show them EXACTLY what they are looking for top notch qualities in a short time ect. They'll want u.



Now if u cant model for poo, and u have lots of experience at making "Okay" models then they wouldnt want u =|.

also.. You need practice(experience) to GAIN skill. but you woudln't practice in the first place if u didn't WANT the skill. So skill > exp

That's not how it works. When a company is looking for modelers, they look entirely at experience. They ask for you to state any projects you've worked on, samples of your work, etcetera. If you don't have any experience at all, then there's a good chance they won't hire you.

Since you were referring to being hired by a company, keep in mind that you're not the only one applying for that position. So, if someone applying for the job has more experience than you but can only produce decent quality models (as opposed to high quality), they have a better chance of being hired.

 

[elNarr]

MC, seriously lol!! We're talking 10 years!!! TEN YEARS!

Ten years is a very long time, i've only lived for 14.

Anyways-If you mix Skill and EXP with sport. Exp will come out easily. You got those brilliant soccer players/football who will go on forever talking about how they'd go out in the streets kicking the ball everyday. Now they're brilliant earning 1 Million a week.

Arh, I'm getting dragged, but still...it seems so obvious that Exp> Skill. Thats why we got to freaking school for 12 years ++ >_<

-Guzzie

Do you even understand what you're speaking of?

10 Years... That is nothing.
Even 10 million years isn't nothing in the timeline, so how can you claim that it's a long time? I'm eager to hear why in your opinion this 10 years is so long? Sure, people only live to as in average to 70-80, but it's nothing, when comparing to the history. It's not long since our 'ancestors' lived in medieval age. Heck, it's only like, 4-5 generations ago.

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Well, i think exp<>skill, since you need experience to get the skill and vice versa. For some people it's just hard to learn something, because they're not just talented with it. The people who start with something off, will create their own point of modelling or anything else for example.

Just my point of view.

 

[VideoJinx]

That's not how it works. When a company is looking for modelers, they look entirely at experience. They ask for you to state any projects you've worked on, samples of your work, etcetera. If you don't have any experience at all, then there's a good chance they won't hire you.

Since you were referring to being hired by a company, keep in mind that you're not the only one applying for that position. So, if someone applying for the job has more experience than you but can only produce decent quality models (as opposed to high quality), they have a better chance of being hired.

Booya.. The ability to make that quality is SKILL not exp =o, that quality is what they r lookin4. SKILL xD