Red Steel? Wii? Which is it man!?!

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Wow it's just a name. My name is Jack because i'm asian. Wow I'm probably a looser and not get alot of girls because my name is Jack.

Seriously though, it's just a name that everyone will remember. There's nothing wrong with the Wii, except that you'll be going Wii Wii all the time for the rest of your life.
 
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Oh I can already see it, More Wii-ness:

[Orthodox Father]: You are grounded for a week, my son.
[Son]: Daddy, can I atleast play with my Wii?
[Orthodox Father]: With you what?!
[Son]: With my Wii, you know...can I?
[Orthodox Father]: Now you are grounded for a month! No such language here in this house!
[Son Whiines]
 
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Oh I can already see it, More Wii-ness:

[Orthodox Father]: You are grounded for a week, my son.
[Son]: Daddy, can I atleast play with my Wii?
[Orthodox Father]: With you what?!
[Son]: With my Wii, you know...can I?
[Orthodox Father]: Now you are grounded for a month! No such language here in this house!
[Son Whiines]
If the little boy were smart he'd ask that of a priest -.-
 
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im waiting for kids to come into the store asking "hey do you have any Wii in stock?"
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"id like a Wii please!"

-_-
 
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For mentioning that, Gir, I'm going to walk into a store with one on demo display and say "I don't have enough money to get one of my own, so I'm going to play with YOUR Wii... all day long. Inform the customers it is now off limits."
 
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It isn't the name that's stupid, it's just that it's yet another slap in the face to the idiotic nintendo fanbase as a whole. You guys are gluttons for punishment; part of me wonders if they gave it this stupid name just to see if you'd all convince yourselves it is somehow not the stupidest bit of nomenclature of any kind that you have ever heard. Which a lot of you are: "After saying it all day, it's not THAT bad," or "What's in a name?" or "Well after saying it with my friends it sounds kind of cute." You're eating it up like flies on ****.

As for the anti-american comments, well...if you have to generalize, it goes both ways. There are a lot of things that can be generalized the other way; for example, I wish they'd stop finding effeminite brittle preteen schoolboys with feathered hair to be macho and bad ass. But hey, it's culture. And in a country where people my age regularly wear pink purses with korean cartoon cats on them, I can only expect so much.

The bottom line is, it's a slap in the face to you the consumer. It is one more completely unnecessary deviation Nintendo has made from what you and I want. I just don't get how you people can love being made fools of so much.
 
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It isn't the name that's stupid, it's just that it's yet another slap in the face to the idiotic nintendo fanbase as a whole..
Ouch....That was pretty harsh....
 
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Well yes, but it's not without an element of truth (given the context of his whole post). When I think about Nintendo i'm not thinking of manly bandanna-wearers who snap necks like kindling or space marines in full suits of armor, I think of moustached plumbers and their cute green dinosaurs. Nintendo does seem to limit, and generalise, their fanbase to a certain stereotype. 'Wii' is another example of this. It fits the cutesy and (ultimately) adolescent vibe that the company has expressed throughout the past few years. If you're happy with that then it's Kool and the Gang, but with gaming becoming more mainstream as it inevitably is, then the name comes across as childish.
 
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Especially in light of the fact that the Nintendo rep, when told people are having mixed feelings about the name, and even started petitions to change it back to revolution basically said, "deal with it".

Way to serve your fan-base Nintendo.

I think Tycho from Penny-Arcade said it best.
I can live in peace with them as long as they do not try and honestly suggest that the Goddamn name is emblematic of togetherness.
 
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I have to agree with Pride that they could at least have done a little market research.

Nintendo seems to prefer going its own way, rather than really listen to what the fans want. For instance, people have wanted a realistic Zelda game for a long time, and Twilight Princess is the result, but it took a long time before they started it.
 
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It's been obvious from the very beginning that Nintendo thinks of Japan first, the outside world second. In Japan 'Wii' means something. I haven't actually seen any reporting from the Japanese point of view but somehow I doubt it's as universally negative as we've seen in the English speaking world.

Granted they could have put a little more thought into how the West would look at Wii.. but then, why should they? Nintendo have always made the main proportion of their profit in Japan. That's something that will probably never change. The culture clash is, obviously, still too strong.

Our problem is that we've been spoilt. Consoles of late have been named in English, even the ones from across the world, so somehow we've come to the conclusion that this is the way it's meant to be. But the Wii is a Japanese product and, by all the gods in heaven, it appears to have a Japanese name.

And for all who posture and preen about the 'childish' here's one more pearl of wisdom to carry home.

Gaming. Is. Childish.

It always has been. It always will be. We will always be playing with toys - for that's all a game is - and no amount of gore, guns or girls will alter that one jot. This isn't something that will change with time, public opinion has no bearing on this fact. Be it the simple joy of Mario, the adrenaline that runs through twitching fingers in Halo or the excited terror of the Haunted House that is Silent Hill. We are playing with toys - complicated, interesting, diverse toys.

To quote one Nintendo rep: "Deal with it."
 
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It's been obvious from the very beginning that Nintendo thinks of Japan first, the outside world second. In Japan 'Wii' means something. I haven't actually seen any reporting from the Japanese point of view but somehow I doubt it's as universally negative as we've seen in the English speaking world.

Granted they could have put a little more thought into how the West would look at Wii.. but then, why should they? Nintendo have always made the main proportion of their profit in Japan. That's something that will probably never change. The culture clash is, obviously, still too strong.

Our problem is that we've been spoilt. Consoles of late have been named in English, even the ones from across the world, so somehow we've come to the conclusion that this is the way it's meant to be. But the Wii is a Japanese product and, by all the gods in heaven, it appears to have a Japanese name.

And for all who posture and preen about the 'childish' here's one more pearl of wisdom to carry home.

Gaming. Is. Childish.

It always has been. It always will be. We will always be playing with toys - for that's all a game is - and no amount of gore, guns or girls will alter that one jot. This isn't something that will change with time, public opinion has no bearing on this fact. Be it the simple joy of Mario, the adrenaline that runs through twitching fingers in Halo or the excited terror of the Haunted House that is Silent Hill. We are playing with toys - complicated, interesting, diverse toys.

To quote one Nintendo rep: "Deal with it."
"Wii" doesn't mean anything in Japanese. And no, not all games are childish. If Nintendo had their wish, they would be. But there are countless games that are not.
 
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Yeah that's kinda like saying the Flight Simulators that pilots train in are childish. And the idea of a "toy" isn't childish either.

I don't think Nintendo is aiming kids with this name...It's supposed to be a next-generation, sleek, gaming system. They probably gave it an unorthodox name to fit the whole "cosmic" feeling. Using a letter like "W" (which effect is similar to the letters X,Z, Y, and Q,) and a double "i", they kinda achieved that affect.

Personally, I always said "Wee Wee" when it came to phallus objects/urine =X.
 
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Engar said:
Gaming. Is. Childish.

It always has been. It always will be. We will always be playing with toys - for that's all a game is - and no amount of gore, guns or girls will alter that one jot. This isn't something that will change with time, public opinion has no bearing on this fact. Be it the simple joy of Mario, the adrenaline that runs through twitching fingers in Halo or the excited terror of the Haunted House that is Silent Hill.
That's complete, unbridled BS right there. Gaming is no longer a toy, but a form of entertainment. There are plently of adult games, aimed at, and designed for, an adult market, which're unsuitable for children. If gaming "Is. Childish" then these games simply wouldn't exist. I'll use the example of Silent Hill as you gave it. It is far more than a 'Haunted House', there's a rich, intricate plot with deep characters and hidden, metaphorical meanings that children (and in this case yourself) wouldn't be able to understand or appreciate.

It is not the gamer community, but Nintendo themselves, that are stuck in the murky depths of gamings past. Gaming may have been 'childish' when Nintendo ruled the roost years ago, but times have long since changed.
 
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I tend to think of video games more like a computer-contained sport of sorts. But by your logic, baseball/football/hockey/basketball/soccer are all 'just a game' and are childish too--yet there are people who devote their entire lives to training to play them professionally.

They have bats, nets and goalposts; I have controllers, video cards, and TV screens. In the end we are both doing the same thing--playing a game. Why should we have to belittle our chosen form of entertainment further than it already is, by the outsiders who both fear and misunderstand it?

Even if video games are childish, there is nothing childish about the direction that the gaming world is going as a whole.
Naming it 'Wii', no matter the intended effect, is going to make it ABSOLUTELY be perceived as a child's toy--which is probably exactly what the point of it was.
 
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Engar said:
It's been obvious from the very beginning that Nintendo thinks of Japan first, the outside world second. In Japan 'Wii' means something. I haven't actually seen any reporting from the Japanese point of view but somehow I doubt it's as universally negative as we've seen in the English speaking world.
Actually, it's a supposed to be a homynym for We. It's supposed to promote inclusiveness of the system, the We is supposed to be Us. Well, I'm glad they actually consulted Us when they changed the name. I really feel included now. Don't you?
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Granted they could have put a little more thought into how the West would look at Wii.. but then, why should they? Nintendo have always made the main proportion of their profit in Japan. That's something that will probably never change. The culture clash is, obviously, still too strong.
Erroneous, on both counts. It has nothing to do with culture and language. It's supposed to be a homynym.
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Our problem is that we've been spoilt. Consoles of late have been named in English, even the ones from across the world, so somehow we've come to the conclusion that this is the way it's meant to be. But the Wii is a Japanese product and, by all the gods in heaven, it appears to have a Japanese name.
Hom-y-nym. We = Wii = Inclusive = Bull****.
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And for all who posture and preen about the 'childish' here's one more pearl of wisdom to carry home.

Gaming. Is. Childish.

It always has been. It always will be. We will always be playing with toys - for that's all a game is - and no amount of gore, guns or girls will alter that one jot. This isn't something that will change with time, public opinion has no bearing on this fact. Be it the simple joy of Mario, the adrenaline that runs through twitching fingers in Halo or the excited terror of the Haunted House that is Silent Hill. We are playing with toys - complicated, interesting, diverse toys.
I'll have to disagree with you. You're assuming that toy automatically means childish. Why do you think that toys have reccomended ages? Because some are aimed at infants, some are aimed at children, and some are aimed at everyone. So it's not fair to automatically make a blanket statement like, video game systems are toys, toys are childish, therefore, video games are childish. Some toys teach kids to learn, is learning childish now too?
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To quote one Nintendo rep: "Deal with it."
That screams professional.
 
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It's the worst example of marketing i've ever seen. Anyone who buys into that is an idiot, and any Nintendo fans who use "It's just a name" just got contradicted by the very company they're defending.
 
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Yeah, the name really screams inclusiveness. That's why they had to write a novel to explain it. And even then, I still don't get it.
 

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