Overthrowing the Government

[MC]

Would such a thing be possible to do? I know the right to bear arms was implemented in the event that the government oversteps their station, but would it be possible for the people to overthrow the government as it stands now? And in the event of a rebellion against the government, would our supposed allies come to support the rebellion or would they sit it out on the sidelines?

 

[Spunky]

Hmm, probably. I doubt it would happen though.

 

[elNarr]

"It should not be people who fears the government, it should be the government that fears the people."

Anything is possible, i don't think that'll happen though.
There would be many attempts, but it would never get enough people to actually get it through + the things would have to be literally '****ed up' with some nation to support this idea and spread to rebellion.

 

[Enix]

yea, im not sure which country you are referring to, but for Americans to overthrow our government would just be retarded. the most we suffer from our government are a few minor discomforts every now and then.

 

[VideoJinx]

yea, im not sure which country you are referring to, but for Americans to overthrow our government would just be retarded. the most we suffer from our government are a few minor discomforts every now and then.

Depends on which "Ameican" government your refering too.

and in my opinion things are already f'ed up.. believe it or not..


Also, I do think it's possible.. infact i think its already begun.. from the bottum up (grass roots r key)

 

[Spunky]

Depends on which "Ameican" government your refering too.

The only one? ...

 

[Zeonix]

The only one? ...

State government, Federal government and....the shadow government. Ask Jinx about the last one.

 

[Spunky]

What's the last one, Jinx? If I have to search for it myself, I'm gonna be pissed, because I'm one lazy ass American.

 

[Rocky]

Governments have been overthrown in the past, think back to the french revolution, russian revolution even when the americans threw off british control. So as far as it being possible, I think so. Whether or not it will actually happen is another thing.

 

[Avenger]

...I think you're not considering the technological advancements we've made. I'm certain that any revolution today would be horrifyingly bloody. It'd turn into a civil war rather than a revolution, as the government would turn the people against each other to save themselves. o:

 

[Zeonix]

...I think you're not considering the technological advancements we've made. I'm certain that any revolution today would be horrifyingly bloody. It'd turn into a civil war rather than a revolution, as the government would turn the people against each other to save themselves. o:

People would destroy their government, realize there's a huge power vacuum and probably end up fighting each other in order to fill it.

 

[Avenger]

Either way it'd end in civil war, which in turn would end in a lot of unnecessary chaos.

 

[Zeonix]

It depends entirely on the quality of the leaders behind the revolution. Compare the American Revolution to the Russian revolutions of 1905, 1917 and the period of 1918-1922. Everything was quite peachy after the former because they had a plan, they were intelligent and they were quite capable as leaders. Not so much with the latter, hence 4 (although I guess there were really only 3, because although the second revolution is split into two separate parts, they really are just halves of a whole) distinct revolutions in a very short time span, 2 of which happened during the same year.

As long as we're not just running out of our houses and burning everything to the ground, civil war is an unlikelihood over here. I'm sure there'd be a lot of arguments as to who should take over and so on, but I highly doubt we'd be willing to continue fighting over something that we can easily solve during breakfast.

That said, if our government decided to use the military against us, they could very well shut us down. Then again, I'm sure there would be a lot of high-ranking generals unwilling to attack the people they swore to protect, and would in the end help us continue fighting and eventually succeed.

 

[Avenger]

The American Revolution was a fluke, and without the French, you would have been toast. Bad example.

 

[Zeonix]

Because no one would be willing to aid a revolution (or start a revolution) if it was in their best interests? Right.

We're not fighting another country. We're fighting our government. Our government operates and is based in this country. There is no ocean separating us from them. We will not be fighting a foreign enemy unless they choose to aid our government, and even then, that doesn't eliminate the chance of our military taking part in a coup and siding with the civilian population.

 

[Avenger]

We're not fighting another country. We're fighting our government.

And this makes the American Revolution an invalid example.

 

[Synth]

What if our government has secretly started another country?

 

[Avenger]

If they had, sure. I don't know of any secret US country though. We got these things called satellites - would be hard to miss.

 

[Zeonix]

And this makes the American Revolution an invalid example.

I am glad that your posts are full of compelling and enlightening arguments.

How is me comparing the leadership behind the American Revolution and the various Russian revolutions invalid? How is my point about having excellent leadership being the difference between having a successful revolution and having an unsuccessful one that may or may not be followed by a civil war, invalid exactly?

 

[Avenger]

Because the American Revolution was versus another country, and there was warfare. Russian revolutions were disorganized because they were fighting among themselves as well as versus the American Revolution. There is no guarantee that the leaders of the American Revolution would have done well in the Russian Revolutions, nor vice versa.