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damn dorn u beat me to it, i wanted to announce the release date, but who cares! 6 days to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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hey jsut be happy its coming out ok
well what is everyone going to be
i will revive an old thread with the poll
finaly 2 years of waiting is finally going to be paid off
also Hibiki hates NS so dont be surpised
well what is everyone going to be
i will revive an old thread with the poll
finaly 2 years of waiting is finally going to be paid off
also Hibiki hates NS so dont be surpised
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its different from avp, first of all no predators that eliminates the p 
. Secondly the aliens are totally different, thirdly the weapons are totally different, fourth the marines look totally different, fifth theres a mode thats like the intel officer mode from the game Global Ops wich is pretty cool, sixth you can build stuff and you need to gather resources. the list goes on and on, people think every game that has aliens and marines in it is automatically an avp clone. give me some good reasons as to why you think it is an avp clone, better yet go look at the FAQ, screenshots info on the game features and all that other stuff on natural-selection.org then tell me some reasons why you think it is an avp clone, because obviously you know nothing about this mod. And that is all i gots to say about that.
. Secondly the aliens are totally different, thirdly the weapons are totally different, fourth the marines look totally different, fifth theres a mode thats like the intel officer mode from the game Global Ops wich is pretty cool, sixth you can build stuff and you need to gather resources. the list goes on and on, people think every game that has aliens and marines in it is automatically an avp clone. give me some good reasons as to why you think it is an avp clone, better yet go look at the FAQ, screenshots info on the game features and all that other stuff on natural-selection.org then tell me some reasons why you think it is an avp clone, because obviously you know nothing about this mod. And that is all i gots to say about that.
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I've never seen a Animated trailer for a HL mod before, that was amazing. I can't wait to play it, should keep me over til ESF beta is out.:]
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i personally don't see how this commander thing is going to work, i mean your basically just following orders and stuff, so who desginates who is going to be the commander? and do you have to follow the comander?? if not your goin to have loads of people not listening and the game probly won't function. WIthout this like cohesion between the players the somewhat strategical element of the marines just goes to hell, in which case the game would be buggered and you just have alot of freelancers and stuff. Also when you join the game in the middle, it'd be weird, this kinda game you want to start from the start... but u can't always. so i duno exactly how this game is gonna play out... esf is betta... end of blabbering
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If you don't like it don't play it, simple as that.
everybody that thinks thats a avp clone, u dont understand.
look at the ns faq, u newbie.
this mod isnt just fps or teambased deathmatch like cs or avp2.
it is a first person shooter with realtime strategy.
so here for dumb asses that cannot find the faq:
This game looks like a clone of that awesome movie, Aliens. It also looks a lot like the game Aliens vs. Predator. Is it only a clone of it?
Some folks think we are copying the movie called Aliens. I think the dev team would be lying if any of them said that they didn't like the movie, or that it didn't influence them in any way. Aliens was perhaps the most influential sci-fi movie ever made. Like a lot of people our age, we're huge Aliens fans. We've been inspired by the movie's visuals and drama, but Natural Selection has nothing to do with those aliens, Vasquez, or LV-426. Our aliens don't look at all like the ones in Aliens, they don't have acid for blood, etc. Natural Selection fits into the "aliens vs. humans" genre as does Event Horizon and Starcraft. We chose to use familiar subject matter then innovate in the gameplay. The fact that the setting is familiar to people increases the appeal and means more people to play with!
For some reason, a lot of comparisons are made to the excellent Aliens vs. Predator, even though that was primarily a scary single-player first-person-shooter and we're a multiplayer-only first-person strategy game. You can play as an alien, but that's where the similarities with AvP end.
What's the deal with the commander mode, I just don't get it. What's this "first-person strategy" stuff?
This is the heart and soul of Natural Selection. The game is a real-time strategy game (RTS), with a first-person front end. What this means is, there is a resource economy, on both sides. A team's resources dictate whether a player can respawn after death, what weapons a team can buy, what upgrades can be researched, what lifeform an alien can morph into, and more. The marines can have one player on the team that can use the command station. This command station allows the player to view the world from a top-down perspective, just like an RTS. He can research technologies, buy weapons for teammates, resupply ammo, etc. He can also select "units" (which are all real live players) and give them orders. For instance, he can lasso select two players and right-click on a balcony in a nearby room. The commander and both players hear a "move to waypoint" order, then the players on the ground see their new waypoint. If they move to that area, the waypoint disappears and the order is completed. In this way, the commander can deploy forces, equip players and even micromanage battles to get an advantage. He can also decide how important individual battles are, and choose to spend as many (or as little) points depending how important he perceives the encounter to be. Seeing all your "little people" and having a responsibility for them is a wonderful feeling. The commander mode could bring both casual and competitive teamplay to the next level.
If Natural Selection is really an RTS, how does each player or side get resources?
The resource model is very close to that in a traditional RTS. There are resource nodes that each team can build a structure on to harvest resources. One crucial difference is that marine resources are shared among the entire team, and alien resources are per player. However, alien structures that harvest resources split the resources up among the team roughly equally.
only because u r beta tester of esf u dont have to say so stupid things. u will never play it because u r too stupid.
look at the ns faq, u newbie.
this mod isnt just fps or teambased deathmatch like cs or avp2.
it is a first person shooter with realtime strategy.
so here for dumb asses that cannot find the faq:
This game looks like a clone of that awesome movie, Aliens. It also looks a lot like the game Aliens vs. Predator. Is it only a clone of it?
Some folks think we are copying the movie called Aliens. I think the dev team would be lying if any of them said that they didn't like the movie, or that it didn't influence them in any way. Aliens was perhaps the most influential sci-fi movie ever made. Like a lot of people our age, we're huge Aliens fans. We've been inspired by the movie's visuals and drama, but Natural Selection has nothing to do with those aliens, Vasquez, or LV-426. Our aliens don't look at all like the ones in Aliens, they don't have acid for blood, etc. Natural Selection fits into the "aliens vs. humans" genre as does Event Horizon and Starcraft. We chose to use familiar subject matter then innovate in the gameplay. The fact that the setting is familiar to people increases the appeal and means more people to play with!
For some reason, a lot of comparisons are made to the excellent Aliens vs. Predator, even though that was primarily a scary single-player first-person-shooter and we're a multiplayer-only first-person strategy game. You can play as an alien, but that's where the similarities with AvP end.
What's the deal with the commander mode, I just don't get it. What's this "first-person strategy" stuff?
This is the heart and soul of Natural Selection. The game is a real-time strategy game (RTS), with a first-person front end. What this means is, there is a resource economy, on both sides. A team's resources dictate whether a player can respawn after death, what weapons a team can buy, what upgrades can be researched, what lifeform an alien can morph into, and more. The marines can have one player on the team that can use the command station. This command station allows the player to view the world from a top-down perspective, just like an RTS. He can research technologies, buy weapons for teammates, resupply ammo, etc. He can also select "units" (which are all real live players) and give them orders. For instance, he can lasso select two players and right-click on a balcony in a nearby room. The commander and both players hear a "move to waypoint" order, then the players on the ground see their new waypoint. If they move to that area, the waypoint disappears and the order is completed. In this way, the commander can deploy forces, equip players and even micromanage battles to get an advantage. He can also decide how important individual battles are, and choose to spend as many (or as little) points depending how important he perceives the encounter to be. Seeing all your "little people" and having a responsibility for them is a wonderful feeling. The commander mode could bring both casual and competitive teamplay to the next level.
If Natural Selection is really an RTS, how does each player or side get resources?
The resource model is very close to that in a traditional RTS. There are resource nodes that each team can build a structure on to harvest resources. One crucial difference is that marine resources are shared among the entire team, and alien resources are per player. However, alien structures that harvest resources split the resources up among the team roughly equally.
only because u r beta tester of esf u dont have to say so stupid things. u will never play it because u r too stupid.
thats like saying it is a clone.
why do u post here if u gonna say it sux??? why do u do that. U CANT SAY THAT IT WILL BLOW IF U DIDNT PLAY IT!!!!
but a clone is just a rip off with some attachments. and u didnt read the faq if u think it is a clone. post a thread on the board of ns and let u answer all question or your thinking that it is a clone and then hear all the answers.
Tepus, you can't judge a mod before its out.. And you can't have read the FAQ that closely otherwise you'd no that rouge marines who don't listen to the commander = dead marines.
Your marines don't listen? Don't follow you orders? Fine, don't give them anything and watch how quickly they die with just their base weapons. Commanders don't just order the marines, they open doors and move lifts if the marines are retreating, hand out buildings and turrets to help the Marines hold a position, give out upgrades like better armour and jetpacks. Marines depend apon the Commander and if he's a ***** they can vote him out.
Your marines don't listen? Don't follow you orders? Fine, don't give them anything and watch how quickly they die with just their base weapons
. Commanders don't just order the marines, they open doors and move lifts if the marines are retreating, hand out buildings and turrets to help the Marines hold a position, give out upgrades like better armour and jetpacks. Marines depend apon the Commander and if he's a ***** they can vote him out. aaahhh here is someone that read the faq. in the next five days there will come a manual so that even newbies like tepus and hibiki (oh man i love to say that) must accept that it is a unique gameplay experience.Originally posted by Engar
Tepus, you can't judge a mod before its out.. And you can't have read the FAQ that closely otherwise you'd no that rouge marines who don't listen to the commander = dead marines.
Your marines don't listen? Don't follow you orders? Fine, don't give them anything and watch how quickly they die with just their base weapons
didnt u listen to him??? the commander dont gives them any weapons so they must kill the aliens with pistols. and thats not easy.Originally posted by Tepus
AHHHHH u missed my point, ur all missing it, and u missed everyone else who said
NO ONE will play team play, god u ever joined a cs server?
a commander (a GOOD one) will say "3 aliens on the other team, i well tell these 5 marines too go get them" the marines will ignore him and do whatever they like
im not saying thats what i would do, if we had a good commander i would follow him.
and for the last time
I HAVE READ THE ****ING FAQ
+ there is a superb vote system so the commander can vote them out.
what should the marines do??? when the commander says go there and kill them and they dont do that. what should they do then? sitting alone??? haha. levels 1 can kill a marine with one pistol easily.and it cant be that 5 marines vs 3 aliens. there is autobalance so the teams are even. the guys that follow that counterstrike gameplay can go on alien side where u have individual resources etc.
*Engar backs away slowly, shaking his head.*
Uh-uh, I'm not gonna get caught in a flame war.
*Engar falls to his knees and prays*
"Please lord, get me out of this.. please!"
*Bolt of lightning strikes down and turns Engar into a small pile of ash.*
P.S: Everyone should at least try NS, go everyone go!
P.P.S: Aliens have 5, count em, 5 different evolutions. Some with melee attacks, some with long range attacks. One even flies.
Marines build buildings that give them upgrades, need Resources to get good weapons and (This is the one true reason why if you don't listen to your commander, your dead) the Commander actually builds the Spawn point for marines. If that isn't built, there is no respawn.
(All this from the small pile of ash.)
Uh-uh, I'm not gonna get caught in a flame war.
*Engar falls to his knees and prays*
"Please lord, get me out of this.. please!"
*Bolt of lightning strikes down and turns Engar into a small pile of ash.*
P.S: Everyone should at least try NS, go everyone go!
P.P.S: Aliens have 5, count em, 5 different evolutions. Some with melee attacks, some with long range attacks. One even flies.
Marines build buildings that give them upgrades, need Resources to get good weapons and (This is the one true reason why if you don't listen to your commander, your dead) the Commander actually builds the Spawn point for marines. If that isn't built, there is no respawn.
(All this from the small pile of ash.)
ooohh did the little kid hibiki made a joke and no one laughs???Originally posted by Hibiki
its not unique u shoot things with guns as the marines and kill marines with ur natural weapons when the aliens
its no different from avp
i think you have simply no friends so i wont bash u.
you didnt read the faq, so i can call you "NEWBIE"! ahaha i love that