hypothetical situation:
you and your friends walk into a bar, there's 2 chicks, one is stunning, the other looks like someone superglued cornflakes to her face. you know nothing about either of the two girls. but you want to get to know one of them.
my money is on wanting to get to know the hot one.
even if she turns out to be a complete ****.
fact is, without physical attraction, romance fails.
just about to post something like that.
Most of all 'starting' relationships start not because you know them, but because you think they're cute.
It's possible, but remember this: Standards of beauty for men are a lot more forgiving than they are for women. We're allowed more leeway in weight, height, and overall appearance. So long as you keep yourself groomed well and workin on losin a bit of weight, you should be fine for all but the hottest of women.
The part I bolded is the important part of your post. If she's been a friend with you for quite some time, you may as well give up on any romantics. What is more important is assertiveness and charisma. Sure, a guy can be there through her rough times offering words of advice or a shoulder to cry on, but unless you make it clear you're interested from the beginning, you've already lost.
This is the same issue brought up with so-called "nice guys" who think girls aren't interested because they're nice. It's because "nice guys" bide their time(usually out of fear of rejection) instead of taking a chance.
Very very true. Friend zoned so god damn much due to being a pussy. but I started being a lot more outgoing than I normally am and I think I have a chick interested in me, so win.
I'm just showing signs i'm interested a lot in her, lawl.
also, I may be a kinda big guy myself, so naturally i like somewhat big girls, but none of those ****ing fat ass fatties. It disgusts me on three parts when a real real fat chick comes into play. One, because they're fat and it looks gross, and just as important, it looks like they don't take care of themselves or have self control, and lastly but as important, if this is how they look like now, what will they look like in 10 years? 20?
****ing disgusting sack of ****, that's how.
but yanno, I hate really skinny girls too. I like it when girls have a tiny bit of a gut, but not a fat ass.