Lesbian Koalas are Here and Queer. Get used to it.

[Pemalite]

Oh ho-ho-ho-ho, I beg to differ.

Honestly, if two hetero guys/girls were put in a cage for an inhumane amount of time, I'm talking a deadly amount of time, they would just say "**** it" and have their way with each other.

Hell if it was two people of the opposite sex and they were hetero, the results would form twice as fast. An twice as kinky =D

Actually No one is straight to begin with, Everyone is rated on a scale which determines they're Bi-sexuality, This scale is called the "Kinsey Scale" Basically 0 is Hetero Sexual and 6 is ***, 3 is Bi-sexual etc.. All those that are "True" Bisexual actually don't like one sex more than the other, They either like women or men more.

You don't "Choose" your sexuality its already determined when your born, If you think of yourself as a true heterosexual could you ever imagine having sex with the same sex? If you could your not really straight to begin with are you?

Comparing Human's sexuality to that of some other species is irrelevant they all have different sexual requirements and habits.

The koala's may use the so called "Lesbian tactics" to learn and get themselves ready for mating, We don't know for sure yet (I Used to work at Greening Australia - Government job).

I don't like debates over sexuality, It always seems to create heated debates and arguments, most of which could be avoided...

 

[Mog]

You don't "Choose" your sexuality its already determined when your born

Stop making stuff up... how is it in any way determined when you are born? ;/
It's not any more determined at birth than that you might become a murderer, protistute, footballer, guitarist, etc...

Your upbringing, family, friends and environment are probably what make the most difference in determining what you will be like.

Sure you can have messed up levels of testosterone and stuff, and that may affect your sexuality...
...but just because that may lead to someone feeling a bit sexually attracted to sheep, it doesn't necessarily mean they should follow it up. :scared:

If you think of yourself as a true heterosexual could you ever imagine having sex with the same sex? If you could your not really straight to begin with are you?

Umm, not really...
If I wanted to, I could imagine myself murdering someone, and how that would be the most terrible, disgusting, aweful mistake I could ever make.
Would that mean I am slightly homicidal?? or just that I had enough brain cells to imagine something. :S

I don't like debates over sexuality, It always seems to create heated debates and arguments, most of which could be avoided...

Other than the part about you not liking these debates, the rest of that was probably actually true.

 

[vinay87]

Well, I guess they have lesser koalas of the opposite sex... lol
Darn scientists.

And i thought showing Pandas pr0n was bad enough

 

[Mountain Dewd]

You're comparing Homosexuality with being a murderer?

Is it me, or was your comparison really pointless?

You dont choose your sexual preferences, you can choose to act on them.

I truly hate these "studies" about sexuality, especially the ones about animals, these "scientists" apply human concepts to the animal kingdom in order to justify their views that homosexuality is natural.

Everyone sort of knows that already..:S

 

[Mog]

Not comparing them...
anyway, I was going to say prostitution or stealing, but I couldn't think of a cool sounding word like "homicidal" for it.

 

[Pemalite]

Stop making stuff up... how is it in any way determined when you are born? ;/
It's not any more determined at birth than that you might become a murderer, protistute, footballer, guitarist, etc...

Your upbringing, family, friends and environment are probably what make the most difference in determining what you will be like.

Sure you can have messed up levels of testosterone and stuff, and that may affect your sexuality...
...but just because that may lead to someone feeling a bit sexually attracted to sheep, it doesn't necessarily mean they should follow it up. :scared:


Umm, not really...
If I wanted to, I could imagine myself murdering someone, and how that would be the most terrible, disgusting, aweful mistake I could ever make.
Would that mean I am slightly homicidal?? or just that I had enough brain cells to imagine something. :S


Other than the part about you not liking these debates, the rest of that was probably actually true.

Ignorance is bliss. You cant compare Sexuality to murder, Murder is psychological whilst sexuality is body chemistry and the mind.

haven't you ever met a guy who is 'Totally ***" including the voice the hand movements, Basically the stereo typical *** guy? You ever wonder what they were like as a child?

Up-bringing has been proven not to have anything to do with it, as Homosexuality is in all walks of life, You could be a foot baller, a druggy, I.T Professional, Singer, Actor whatever, Could have been brought up rich, Had everything you desired, or could have been brought up in a third world county, No 2 situations in life are ever the same.

I have my own views on the situation, It isn't a disease, It isn't a disorder, Your born with it, Trust me been there done that

 

[Super Veggeto]

Wha?! no pictures? where's the fap...I mean, fun in that? =/

 

[Hitokiri]

I don't know why some of you are so surprised. Have you ever heard of a prison? That place where humans are caged together and, sometimes, have no real hope of ever dealing with the opposite sex ever again?:scared: Gee, let's try and think about what ends up happening there.

As for nature vs. nurture in sexuality I don't think we've quite figured it out, but I'm sure it's likely some combination of the two.

 

[Growler]

I haven't read the comments here, so excuse me if I say something similar to someone else's remark...

-I'm not suprised by that. I mean, it's basic human instinct.. you get lonely... you ****.
They're just mirroring what they've been hearing about what's happening in the prisons of human society.

 

[Smith]

Pemalite, you start with this:

Actually No one is straight to begin with

And then say this:

You don't "Choose" your sexuality its already determined when your born

Try to keep your views on one side in your posts =p.

Sexuality is such a nature vs nurture debate (i.e. genetics vs environment). I believe that you're born with an inclination to be either homosexual or heterosexual. That doesn't mean you'll turn one or the other, it just means that you're more likely to fall to one than the other. How you develop and your experiences will be the deciding factors.

If you think of yourself as a true heterosexual could you ever imagine having sex with the same sex? If you could your not really straight to begin with are you?

People can imagine anything, Pemalite. It doesn't have any say on their character or sexuality, though.

They're just mirroring what they've been hearing about what's happening in the prisons of human society.

I don't know why some of you are so surprised. Have you ever heard of a prison? That place where humans are caged together and, sometimes, have no real hope of ever dealing with the opposite sex ever again? Gee, let's try and think about what ends up happening there.

That seems more like dominance than relief. Some people find power in dominating someone else, albeit male or female. And remember, not every prisoner is a raper, heh.

 

[Devion]

Well maybe this is still a debate in America and some other conservative countries, but it's proven that homosexuality is in your genes.

It's not a disorder, it's not a **** up of your genes, it's a natural thing. Animals are also *** and bi. It doesn't only happens in zoo's. The reason why most of these discoveries are made in zoo's is because there are always people around observing the animals.

Childern don't have any real sexuality because hormones aren't released that makes you sexual active.(Aka puberty) A young boy who plays dolls and has alot of girls as friend is a GENDER-issue(Not always the case though) and has nothing to do with sexuality.

Your upbringing may change the way you behave, but doesn't change your sexuality in the end.(Like people who grow up in a society, where *** people are "shunned") There alot of people who got in a straight marriage, but divorced because they figured out they were *** after all. That happens when you got ****ed up morals(Like *** being bad) and people cant express their true feelings.

I will probally be flamed now and be called a ***-activist. Well I'm not, I think it's uber gross(Although not all relations, ARE sexual), but I dont take my view and enforce it to someone. Everyone should be free to who they should love, **** and get a relationship with.

 

[Hitokiri]

QFT Devion. QFT:yes:

 

[Mog]

I was kinda hoping this thread would have died by now... but now people have posted stuff that is hard to ignore again.

Well maybe this is still a debate in America and some other conservative countries, but it's proven that homosexuality is in your genes.

What!?? So all non-conservative countries in the world know of a "*** Gene"?
Sorry if I don't believe you...
I live in the UK, and it's a pretty leftie liberal situation here at the moment... how come we weren't let in on this?
Even leading geneticists say they do not know of any evidence showing genes being the cause of homosexuality.
I don't know what country you come from, but maybe they should start sharing their genetic research a bit more...

Your upbringing may change the way you behave, but doesn't change your sexuality in the end.(Like people who grow up in a society, where *** people are "shunned") There alot of people who got in a straight marriage, but divorced because they figured out they were *** after all. That happens when you got ****ed up morals(Like *** being bad) and people cant express their true feelings.

Hmm, if homosexuality really was caused by genes, then I would agree... homosexuals should not be made to feel pressured into straight marriages.
If this "*** Gene" is passed down to offspring...

I will probally be flamed now and be called a ***-activist. Well I'm not, I think it's uber gross(Although not all relations, ARE sexual), but I dont take my view and enforce it to someone. Everyone should be free to who they should love, **** and get a relationship with.

Not sure how you would feel towards paedosexuals and zoosexuals... :scared:
Born that way? they should be free to act on their feelings? and people with "anti-" views should not discourage against it?

 

[Mountain Dewd]

Not sure how you would feel towards paedosexuals and zoosexuals... :scared:
Born that way? they should be free to act on their feelings? and people with "anti-" views should not discourage against it?

Again you're comparing homosexuality to something that is morally wrong.

Are you done sticking your foot in your mouth or would you like to continue?

 

[Optimus Prime]

Not sure how you would feel towards paedosexuals and zoosexuals... :scared:

Homosexuality is a natural progression of the human condition.

"I gotsta have sex with that goat" is not.

 

[[S]]

Homosexuality is a natural progression of the human condition.

"I gotsta have sex with that goat" is not.

What if it's a male goat? Is that like a double whammy or do they cancel each other out?

 

[Devion]

I was kinda hoping this thread would have died by now... but now people have posted stuff that is hard to ignore again.

And may I ask it's so hard?

What!?? So all non-conservative countries in the world know of a "*** Gene"?

But reading equals bad reply. I said in conservative countires there still discussion about *** genes and if they exist AT ALL.

Sorry if I don't believe you...

It's not matter of believe my friend, but a matter of proof.

I live in the UK, and it's a pretty leftie liberal situation here at the moment... how come we weren't let in on this?
Even leading geneticists say they do not know of any evidence showing genes being the cause of homosexuality.
I don't know what country you come from, but maybe they should start sharing their genetic research a bit more...

Google *** gene, see the pro and cons.

Point to left croner of my post...Location \o/
Yes there were some trouble with the research and it isnt proven a 100% but most fingers point this way.

Hmm, if homosexuality really was caused by genes, then I would agree... homosexuals should not be made to feel pressured into straight marriages.
If this "*** Gene" is passed down to offspring...

Not sure how you would feel towards paedosexuals and zoosexuals... :scared:
Born that way? they should be free to act on their feelings? and people with "anti-" views should not discourage against it?

You know what I meant, relations on equal levels, happy?

 

[NeLo9]

I mainly agree with Mog. Simply because I came to the conclusion b4 i read this article...

http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet5.html

(there are clickies at the bottom for more answers)

Made some valid points and confirmed my own questions. Im not closed minded at all, I mainly go with my gut feeling. So if there is hard hard evidence that I as a person have NO control over MY LIFE...then I might as well end it. I do NOT like the idea that I can't make my own choices on who I want to be with or what I wish to do with my life. That's like saying destiny rules all and there's nothing you can do about it! A mythical force out there has already set your path blah blah blah.

Look I know there's a difference between a murderer and a homosexual but there was a MUCH bigger picture to what Mog was saying than you guys realize...Try and look at the bigger picture rather than focus on a piece.

I still agree with Mog in that if being homosexual was already implied in your genes, then being addicted to drugs, porn, food, and any other behavior we have now has already been set. Funny part is, I chose NOT to be ***. Yes, there was a point in my life where I actually thought about my sexuality and I chose to be hetero. Not because the idea of being *** sickens me now, but boobies are much more fun and hawt! :laff: Just ****ing look at us. There is a MALE and a FEMALE FOR A REASON! Not for just some variety because that's basically what Im getting here unless im WAAY off base...

And think about this question. What about child molesters? They believe in having sex with lil boys is "natural" because they are in "love"... There's an ACUTAL organization out there trying to make it LEGAL! (South Park made an episode of this) Born with it or just got ****ed up at a young age?

FYI, I have nothing against *** people, never have and never will. It's just a behavior I disagree with.

On Topic: I see this nothing more than a behavior. Scientists didn't say this is how the females koalas are and forever gonna be, they just observed in this setting, they chose to be with a female. This is more of a WIP so everything we're saying is only speculation therefore cannot be interpreted as these creatures are born homosexual.

 

[Hitokiri]

Geez fellas. Hopefully most of you are intelligent enough to understand that there's a distinct difference between molesting children and a relationship between two mature, consenting males/females. It's a lifestyle choice that doesn't harm anything or interfere with your way of life, except the proliferation of the human species... as if we need any help doing that.:] The only genuine negative effects homosexuals suffer are the societal stigmas and crap thrown onto them. It was taken out of the DSM for a reason.

I don't honestly believe anyone chooses, in some unbiased little choice dome in their brain, whether they want to be attracted to men or women. You're either for one or the other or both, and you're pretty much told your whole life that the way you're "supposed to be" is male+female. Some people, despite being told that their whole lives, choose otherwise; not out of some rebellious complex, or some kind of childhood abuse or mental poisoning, but because that's who they are. Frankly I think that alone says something for it being a born condition... not mentioning all of the various studies that would agree.

The koala species could probably use some proliferating though. Pandas too. If only endangered species were as intolerant as we are

 

[KelesK]

It's probably been said.. But this has proven that Aussie's love their lesbians and go like the energizer bunny in the bedroom. It even shows in our animals now