gotenks for 1.3

[wheres_]

Well because of the extremly successful thread "tien for 1.3" i have decided to try to establish the same thing and rally ppl to the gotenks cause. though it is my regret that i am not as well known in the community as Damirith the guy that set up that thread i do hope that ppl will follow me in the quest for Gotenks. I at any time will let anyone take over this "campaign" if i feel they are more informed than me or i feel they can take this to were I want it to get.

First of all vote plz so i can see if gotenks is wanted in the community.

Then we need ideas so everybody into your infinite knowledge and let us hear youre ideas as so we can get an idea for what we will need to make this happen.

P.S i voted in my own pole shame on me tsk tsk tsk :S

 

[imkongkong]

OPTIONAL trunks n goten side by side
gotenks normal
gotenks ssj
gotenks ssj3

when he dies, a bright ball comes from them and you see goten and trunks lying on the ground dead.. would be pretty cool to see imo..

also he has original attacks.. kamekaze ghost attack could work where you charge one up like a kame torpedo.. u move the cursor to an enemy and it would then act like a homing missle.. it would blow on contact.. a way to not make it so spammable is to only allow a few depending at your transformation and the homing would not be so fast.. 4 for normal, 5 for ssj, and 6 for ssj3

he could also do a galactic donut attack where he'd throw 3 ki rings around a player.. if made contact, that player would be immobilized and would enter a struggle.. the attack would drain 2 hp per second, max 10 seconds in the donut.. and gotenks if quick enough he can do a simple melee into the ground where the opponent would be free once makin contact with the ground

mouth blast could also be another move

he could have a renzoku energy dan like vegeta when going to ssj3

for the optional, trunks n goten side by side, these are the moves in mind...
double generic beams and two generic balls that would fuse to become one when thrown.. ki balls would take turns throwing one.. in swoop they'd twirl around each other.. doulbe kamehameha

gotenks would be an awesome character to have..

 

[wheres_]

OK then ill try to get the ball rolling...

1.) Gotenks should just start as normal gotenks none of this two kids crap. Then he could go to ssj although in the show he kind of skips either ssj1 or 2 but we dont know which one so ill asume he skips ssj2. Then he could go ssj3 thats it i suppose for his ss lvls. The stats could go a little somthing like this:

gotenks-ssjgotenks 1,500,000 Pl multiplyer:2
ssjgotenks-ssj3gotenks 4,500,000 Pl multiplyer:2

then he'll need attacks but he has many unique attacks so this shouldnt be hard

1.)melee
2.)kiblasts/rezenko (from that gif you see every were)
3.)generic beams/balls
4.)victory cannon(yellow mouthblast 'strong'!!!)
5.)cosmic halo/galactick donut
6.)super ghost kamakazi

For cosmic halo/galactick donut i think you could charge a ring above your head and then throw it at an enemy it should have exactly the same throw phisics as the DDisk but on impact the enemy gets gripped by it the enemy then has a PS with it to break free but during that time you can blastem all you want hows that sound.

now lets hear some of you guys suggestions

PS sorry imkongkong i was typing whilst you post came up but we thinking the same

if a team member is reading this: if we can strap together very high quality gotenks models and animations and skins and sounds could he plz be considered for placment in 1.3 he has many unique attacks and lvls of transformation he would be an extremly worthy char in the great mod ESF there could also be another modeling contest on were the guys that didnt quite cut the tein comp can have another shot at glory with gotenks i am very excited at the prospect of gotenks if we have the go ahead plz respond...

and also we still have many ppl to share there ideas, the possibilitys are endless.

hopfully more input will be here when i wake up... :tired: zzzzzzz

until next time KingV

 

[Damirith]

:yes: :yes: :yes:

<-kingvegeta-> has it right. Gotenks should start as Gotenks, not as Goten and Trunks side by side.

I also like your idea for Cosmic Halo that they have to do a PS to survive it but I think that while they are PSing the Cosmic Halo, they should be immune other attacks. It would get kind of cheap if you could Cosmic Halo them and while they are Psing it, be able to finish them off with another attack. Also, you shoulnt be able to hit them with another Cosmic Halo while they already have one around them. That would be spammed if you could keep stacking Cosmic Halos around a person. And if the person wins the PS, the Cosmic Halo should just break right off of them, not fly off in some random direction and/or explode and cause damage.

I just would like to know how super ghost kamakazi would work and be balanced in ESF?

 

[TwisteR]

Too many Gotenks threads >_<
http://forum.esforces.com/showthread.php?t=43908
As for adding him for 1.3, I doubt it. Maybe later, but not as soon as 1.3. But I think Gotenks is a definite posibility though. Lots of unique attacks, ect, ect, ect.

 

[Cold Steel]

If they'd put up another contest, it could work though. He earns a place in ESF.

 

[Krazy-Killa]

Gotenks would be a really cool character to add into ESF. I kinda like the idea of having Goten & Trunks as the normal form. That way, Gotenks would have a extra-ordinary transformation. The way imkongkong decided their attacks is actually kinda interesting.
For the transformation into Gotenks, the only part that should get shorter, is the the showing of Gotenks (The big ball of energy that appears when they did the fusion, but their should always be a ball of energy that appears around them.)
If the optional Goten & Trunks side by side or just one of them is suggested like imkongkong pointed out, then the people that have been suggesting fusion so many times would get it, or instead of having them side by side, play as either Goten or Trunks, and when you preform the transformation into Gotenks, the other would fly in from a part of the map, and land, and preform the transformation.

 

[Delusional]

Or just have Gotenks as a normal character. With stats like :
* Normal Form *
Gotenks -
Starting PowerLevel: 900-1,000,000(you pick)
Max Health: 120
Max Speed: 200

ATTACKS -
Melee
Ki Blast
Generic Beam
Galactic Donut
Kamehameha


* Transformation *
SuperSayain Gotenks -
Transform Powerlevel: 1,750,000-2,000,000
Powerlevel Multiplier: 1.5
Max Health: 180
Max Speed: 240

ATTACKS -
Melee
Ki Blast
Generic Beam
Mouth Blast (yellow)

*Transformation 2*
SuperSayain 3 Gotenks
Transform Powerlevel:5,250,000
Powerlevel Multiplier: 2.2
Max Health: 200
Max Speed: 260

ATTACKS-
Melee
Ki Blast
Generic Beam
Mouth Blast (yellow)
Super Ghost Kamakazi Attack


W.I.P!

 

[Tetsudah]

I think super ghost kamakazi will turn into another homing blast... please please make it very different if it gets in.

 

[imkongkong]

basically kamekaze ghost is a homing attack.. it follows the enemy and on impact collision

for the galactic donut attack.. right click would be simple melee.. left click would be to charge and shoot the rings.. like i said you would have to powerstruggle.. once you capture someone in the rings, left click would be regular ki blasts and right click simple melee.. everytime the opponent gets hit, their struggle bar goes more into their favor.. anytime you change attacks, the galactic donut rings would then break! so even thou they are losing, you can do other attacks... so while you do other attacks they all the more get a chance to be free, so it cna't be super spammed

 

[Zarmat]

I think Gotenks should have a ssj2 form, since its stated in the show u need to go to ssj2 before u can transform into ssj3, but they should make it that there not much of a pl gap between ssj2 and ssj3 so it wouldnt take u long to reach ssj. Also im all for Gotenks, but i dont think they should add him in the game just yet till they get a few more non-saiyans players in the game.

 

[wheres_]

imkongkong~" anytime you change attacks, the galactic donut rings would then break!"

i agree with this point but not the

I think Gotenks should have a ssj2 form,

if the show specificly says tell me the episode but gotenks never makes a specific point to going ssj2 i think.

And what do you mean by

As for adding him for 1.3, I doubt it. Maybe later, but not as soon as 1.3

soon as 1.3!!!! soon as !!!!! what??? i thoght this was gonna be one of the final versions HL2 will be out this year... maybe and though i will still play ESF many will ditch it and play the impresive engine. So id like to see some very worthy additions in ESF as soon as possible eg gotenks.

until next time KingV

 

[Zarmat]

if the show specificly says tell me the episode but gotenks never makes a specific point to going ssj2 i think.KingV

He doesnt state anywhere he is a ssj2, but his hair when fighting buu in the time chamber lloks about right, but no ssj2 lighting around him so dunno, but it is stated as I said before that he has to have the ability to go ssj2 in order to reach ssj3, beside if you didnt use ssj2 that wud mean he wud only have three forms, I personally reckon when the new trans come in, the Saiyans shud have at least 4 forms, but thats my opinion I suppose. Like I said in my last post here, he shud have ssj2, but have it that it doesnt take you long afterwards to power up to ssj3 so you not stuck in his ssj2 from for too long.

 

[wheres_]

*off topic*I suppose youre right...Aussies are always right(ROCK ON AUST) im from perth.

*on topic* yeah 4 trans for the saiyajins is cool
gohan ss1 ss2 mystik
vegeta ss1 ss2 majin
goku ss1 ss2 ss3
trunks ss1 sslvl2 sslvl3 (different lvl's of ssj1 like ussj and stuff)
gotenks ss1 ss2 ss3

now we have ideas and support (approx 78% *update 80%* want him) all we need is the go ahead from the team plz team respond. If or when we get the go ahead we will need a modeler or many if were gonna have a comp like the tein comp i would personally like super vegetto to make the model his skining style is UBER CHAMP.

any ways lets get some ideas for super ghost kamakazi while the team decides if they should put him in.

also if anymodelers are interested plz reply to this thread.

PS: also thanks for the positive input so far..i..i..i love u guys..*tears forming*lol

until next time KingV

 

[imkongkong]

i dont kno y u dont kno.. but in order to b ssj2 vegeta went majin... after he died he could go ssj2, not before.. so it SHOULD be

normal, ssj, majin, ssj2

 

[Zarmat]

i dont kno y u dont kno.. but in order to b ssj2 vegeta went majin... after he died he could go ssj2, not before.. so it SHOULD be

normal, ssj, majin, ssj2

A lot of people have made this mistake, he was able to go SSJ2 before he went Majin, he did it during the 7 years between Cell and Buu, which was why he thought he was stronger than everyone, he knew he was stronger than Gohan since he hadn't been trainin, but you think a SSJ or USSJ form could compete with a SSJ2, even though Gohan wasn't as Strong as he used to be, remember when Goku and Vegeta was fighting they were auctually fighting at a level above SSJ2, since Vegeta had extra power now because of the curse, and Goku was since he was able to push his power over SSJ2 proberly since he had the ability to go SSJ3 so he would have just push his power up enough so it wpuldn't strain the time he had left on Earth. So the transform order should be:
Vegeta > SSJ > USSJ > SSJ2 > Majin

After writing all this I realise this is a Gotenks topic and I just gone a little bit offf topic, oh well, im not gunna let all that go to waste

 

[PRJ]

Meh,it still feels a lil bit wierd because a fusion character that u wont need to fuse to get ?
But then again he was in that Playstation game (i dont remember the name) so it shouldnt be wierd so i guess having him in ESF maybe rulz

 

[wheres_]

The thing is that goten and trunks by them selves were nothing but as gotenks they were a formidable opponent so he should just be gotenks thats it because he is a single form and a character in his own right he wasnt like trunks or goten he was in the middle. And all though it is possile it would be to crappy to have two differnt forms chars as one single model and the advanced melee animations would be to advacned and all the chars would need a new animation to cope for fighting two chars at once

And yes you are correct vegeta did go ssj2 in the 7 year peiriod after cell and it would be uber crap if vegetas ultimate form was some of the other chars lesser form----->

Goku__ ss-------->ss2------->ss3
Gohan_ ss-------->ss2------->mystic
Gotenks ss-------->ss2------->ss3
Vegeta_ ss->majin->ss2
Vegeta_ ss-------->ss2------->majin
---> because it would make it seem that vegeta is much weaker than the others in which case he isn't and they would all have original final forms(exept for goku and gotenks) but ss3 is uber cool so it doesnt matter...OK??

Back on topic now plz we need ideas on super ghost kamakazi.

attack and lvls:

norm:
1melee
2kiblast/blob
3genbeam/ball
4kamehameha
5cosmic halo

ss:
1melee
2kiblast/blob
3genbeam/ball
4mouth blast
5cosmic halo

ss2:
1melee
2kiblast/blob
3genbeam/ball
4mouth blast
5cosmic halo
6ghost kamakazi

ss3:
1melee
2kiblast/blob
3genbeam/ball
4mouth blast
5cosmic halo
6super ghost kamakazi

GHOST ATTACK IDEA
1 you get 2 at ss2, 4 at ss3
2 you cant move while charging
3 when you relese click they will auto home (with the ability of scatter beam not kame torps)
4 the ghosts will have too be low poly models coz high polys will lag and sprites wont work. They will need two animations idle and fly foward

And if any modelers are interested in making an uber quality gotenks model and hair edits for ssj ssj2 and ssj3 and super ghosts plz say...(especialy you Super vegetto) um... also ESF-TEAM there is support for this idea so if you reply and say if you will and/or can incorperate it that would be so hugly apperciated and if you would like another model contest for Gotenks (so the guys that didnt win can have another crack at getting there model(s) in the game... oooo who will win*cough*Super Vegetto*cough*) that could be arranged.

until next time KingV

 

[Lord Killmore]

it´s not like i don´t like the idea but...
i knew this would happen .
now after tiwn will be in 1.3 so many people want other chars in it

 

[SPIDER-BITE]

i couldnt be bothered to read the whole trhead so i may be missing some things. BUT, the idea of a fused character was stupid to me until that guy suggested the twin characters and i thought that was mad, and that got me into thinking it may be possible.