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Sure I was going to leave it at that when we were going offtopic in the other thread,
however Hibiki had to break the rules and reply anyway ( secretly I yay'd ) and I'm sure Cucumba would love to defend his statements..
and so would I for that matter!
so here it is.
The theory of evolution,
discussion thread.
what's happened so far.
Were all old enough here to have mature discussions, and with that said.
GO!
To add to hibiki's post, Whales and Dolphins.
they took quite an unusual path.
Water > Land > Water
They still have some of their original legg bones hidden in their body ( Much like we still have a tail bone )
Not to mention the embryo's in the first few months are pretty much the same as a HUMAN baby!
Even though their still mammals, I do think this is a case of macro evolution.
however Hibiki had to break the rules and reply anyway ( secretly I yay'd ) and I'm sure Cucumba would love to defend his statements..
and so would I for that matter!
so here it is.
The theory of evolution,
discussion thread.
what's happened so far.
Saying we have nothing to do with global warning is a bit like the whole evolution debate.
Sure their is prove for it, sure all the facts are there, but some people just aren't willing to see it.
Don't even start me on evolution, that theory has just as many holes, so not willing to see it applies to both sides. There are no tranistory animals, they simply do not exist in the fossil record. There is no macro evolution, only micro, but that is not the point here.
Evolution works through mutation and addeptation.
Mutation hardly ever works, so if offspring are born which are weaker due too mutation.
if it's a planteater, it will probably be finished off by a hunter, because they scan for weakness.
If it's a hunter it will be unable to properly catch prey and will die of hunger and will most certainly be eaten by scavangers.
Meaning you'll hardly ever find any fossils.
however, if the mutation excels in something or is really similar to the original.
chances are it will survive and reproduce.
( example: people with blond hair for the similarity fact and the giraffe for the excelling fact.)
Blond haired/blue eyed people hardly differ from the rest of us so their genes could spread. ( The are actually all linked back from the same European person, nearly 1000 years ago )
Giraffes are a mutation from antelope-like mammal, they survived cause they had a food source not available most other animals thus were able to reproduce and create their own line.
at first their necks weren't that long, but due to addaptation they eventually got longer ( survival of the fittest as longer necked giraffes reproduced more because they had more food. those longer necked genes were passed on etc etc . )
this transgression has also been proven due too fossils so theirs your transitory animals!
a similar process happened with todays big cats.
they used to be bigger but due too their prey becoming smaller, so did they.
again this addeptations have been registered with fossils.
just because all the blanks haven't been filled in yet doesn't mean it's not true.
Also please don't use the argument that it just hasn't been found yet.
The same can be said for they way you think everything came to be.
Don't automatically lump me in with Creationisim. In your examples, a blonde human is still an ape. A giraffe is still a cloven hoof vegetarian mammal. TYPES don't change. There is no evidence of it. Micro evolution, exactly as you describe, is well founded. Natural Selection is also well founded. Macro evolution, where fish grow legs and become reptiles, is still very much in doubt and unsupported.
now before posting, I'd like everyone to check their post to see if you wrote nothing that might insult someone else.Am I missing something?
We do have evidence of macro evolution in the fossil records. Now yeah we don't have every single minute change documented but you can still look up the gradual change in creatures if you look them up. Ancient sea life that started moving in closer to shore, growing legs to walk in shallow waters, lungs to breath in places where there wasn't water flow, and then walking on land. It's all there.
Were all old enough here to have mature discussions, and with that said.
GO!
To add to hibiki's post, Whales and Dolphins.
they took quite an unusual path.
Water > Land > Water
They still have some of their original legg bones hidden in their body ( Much like we still have a tail bone )
Not to mention the embryo's in the first few months are pretty much the same as a HUMAN baby!
Even though their still mammals, I do think this is a case of macro evolution.