I think u are asking if u have to have hl2 for beta 1.2 and the answer is no...the dev team have already said that they arent moving to hl2....but i wanna ask a question directed to the dev team...would u guys be too terribly upset if some other team took your ideas for melee and such and made a hl2 mod? not necessarily take the esf name but just the game play style...just wondering