DBZ questions

[dan_esf_fanatic]

Well, here's the thing, fanatic; Vegeta killed Recoome.

Hmm, are you sure? I only remember Goku striking him into the stomach and him falling down. What happened after that?

 

[MF29]

Vegeta blasted him afterwards.

 

[vinay87]

Vegeta kills Reccoome and Berter. This is after jaiece flies off to get capt. Ginyu.

Goku kills: Kid Buu, Yakan, King Kai, Gregory and Bubbles(Well... sort of caused it)

meh question should have been how many people did goku pwn in DB and dbz (GT sucks) )

 

[Vegeta]

I still don't think Goku deserves the credit for killing Kid Buu, as it wasn't even his energy. When someone kills someone in Dragon Ball Z they usually do it by physical means, or with energy from their own hands; the energy came from the people of earth. Sure Goku learned the Spirit Bomb technique, but without relying on other living beings to power it, it's useless.

Goku kills: Kid Buu, Yakan, King Kai, Gregory and Bubbles(Well... sort of caused it)

Caused the death, but if we're referring to people Goku killed with his own hands that wouldn't be included. I'd assume we aren't including movies, and so the only enemy Goku actually killed -with his own power- was Yakon. Although I can see where this becomes debatable; I'm sure at least one person was killed when Goku powered up to SS3. So if he caused the quakes, the glass to shatter, and the buildings to fall [how didn't the buildings fall?], then he may have been responsible for many deaths.

 

[Mountain Dewd]

I still don't think Goku deserves the credit for killing Kid Buu, as it wasn't even his energy. When someone kills someone in Dragon Ball Z they usually do it by physical means, or with energy from their own hands; the energy came from the people of earth. Sure Goku learned the Spirit Bomb technique, but without relying on other living beings to power it, it's useless.

Dude, Goku threw the Genki Dama at Chibi Buu, then used his power to further overwhelm Buu, and kill him, he also made the concious decision to do this.

What you're saying is shooting a person dead with someone elses gun doesnt make you a killer.

 

[Vegeta]

You CANNOT use these kinds of analogies when discussing DBZ - you CANNOT.

Now, what you're almost implying is you believe Goku, in his SS1 state, had enough power to fully "overwhelm" Buu - he needed the SS energy to control the SB, which was holding the only energy strong enough to "destroy" Buu. Naturally Goku would've had to power up, because it was the SB's energy, his own [in an injured 'base' form], and Kid Buu, that caused him so much trouble in launching the bomb. "Powering up", -in the world of DBZ-, does wonders, as most of us have seen for ourselves.

 

[Mountain Dewd]

No, what I'm implying is.

Goku decided to charge the Genki Dama, and Goku decided to throw it.

That makes him the killer, he could have just left the Genki Dama in the sky for all of eternity, but no, he made a conscious decision to kill Chibi Buu.

State one good reason my analogy doesnt work?

Goku threw (Pulled the trigger) of the Genki Dama (the gun), at Buu, he didnt drop it because it was heavy, he was using it to kill Buu, and to suggest he isnt responsible because the energy isnt his doesnt make any sense.

 

[Barney]

mountain dewd is right...pretty dumb thing to argue about in the first place but essentially hes right. If you have the intent of killing someone and you do then you killed em. Saying he didn't b/c it was other energy that's like saying you didn't kill someone if you used someone else's sword. Plus he was the one who collected the energy for the bomb so in a sense it was his own.

 

[Vegeta]

My opinion was, 'I don't think Goku deserves the credit', in entirety, of course - Goku couldn't have had one without the other, so ultimately, the people of earth deserve the recognition. Think to yourself, "Goku killed Kid Buu with the Spirit Bomb." In argument, do you really believe Goku should be brought up as the one responsible for the death of Kid Buu? It sounds inaccurate, and rather one-sided. Which is why I said it's debatable.

 

[Mountain Dewd]

Why do you think the people of earth put their hands up in the air?, they weren't doing it for show, Goku effectively took their energy and transmuted it into a bomb, Goku was the one that collected all the ammo laying around, the general populace would have no Idea what was actually going on.

Who's energy it is really has nothing to do with it, because it was Goku's decision to use the Genki Dama, he made that choice, and no-one else had anything to do with it.

If their weren't any people around and Goku only took energy from plants, would that make the plants responsible for Buu's death?, of course not.

Its not even debateable, energy aside, Goku threw the Genki Dama, not the people of earth.

 

[Vegeta]

Why do you think the people of earth put their hands up in the air?, they weren't doing it for show, Goku effectively took their energy and transmuted it into a bomb, Goku was the one that collected all the ammo laying around, the general populace would have no Idea what was actually going on.

Who's energy it is really has nothing to do with it, because it was Goku's decision to use the Genki Dama, he made that choice, and no-one else had anything to do with it.

If their weren't any people around and Goku only took energy from plants, would that make the plants responsible for Buu's death?, of course not.

Its not even debateable, energy aside, Goku threw the Genki Dama, not the people of earth.

No. You're going to take it in circles.

 

[Mountain Dewd]

No. You're going to take it in circles.

Yes. Better than making a non-sensical statement and trying to justify it while ignoring the obvious.

 

[goku-chan]

Yes Goku did throw the Spirit Bomb but without the help of Vegeta and the people of earth Goku couldn't kill Buu.

 

[vinay87]

... This thread sure is going places with a miniwar about who made the bullet that killed the victim.....

So I guess I'll continue with another question to stop this. Not to try and take someone else's chance, of course :|

Which of King Kai's companions is non-canon (not in the manga. A filler character)? (Gregory or Bubbles?)

 

[Mountain Dewd]

Gregory wasnt in the manga.

However I'm pretty sure Toriyama had something to do with his character design, so he's not all bad.

Here's a question, Name all of the Saiya-jin Vegetable puns (only include movies if you wish)

 

[john_volkov]

it was that Ciu (frieza saga) then that dudorian then Zarbon, A19,Imperfect Cell,Quickly,GokuSSJ2(tie, but he still know him the f... out)and fatbuu a little bit
oh yeah btw Goku killed buu becase he had no chanse if he survive Buu was the Ruler of the Univers ^^

 

[Vegeta]

Gregory wasnt in the manga.

However I'm pretty sure Toriyama had something to do with his character design, so he's not all bad.

Here's a question, Name all of the Saiya-jin Vegetable puns (only include movies if you wish)

What's actually "non-sensical" is arguing an opinion, one that's just speculation for the most part.

The Vegetable puns. Well, I'll list the only ones I know:

Dragon Ball Storyline Characters
Vegeta [Japanese name: Begeta] Pun: Vegetable
Nappa Pun: Chinese Cabbage
Raditz Pun: Radish
Goku / Kakarotto Pun: Carrot

The Legendary Super Saiyan Movie #8
Brolly Pun: Broccoli
Paragus Pun: Asparagus

Bardock: The Father of Goku Movie Special
Bardock [Japanese name: Barduck] Pun: Herb
Shugesh [Japanese name: Panbukin] Pun: Pumpkin
Fasha [Japanese name: Seripa] Pun: Parsley
Tora [Japanese name: Toma] Pun: Tomato
Borgos [Japanese name: Totapo] Pun: Potato

The Tree of Might
Turles [Japanese name: Tullece] Pun: Lettuce

 

[vinay87]

Hmm I'm continuing from here.
Name all the cities in the Dragonball/z World.

 

[MF29]

Why do you think the people of earth put their hands up in the air?, they weren't doing it for show, Goku effectively took their energy and transmuted it into a bomb, Goku was the one that collected all the ammo laying around, the general populace would have no Idea what was actually going on.

Who's energy it is really has nothing to do with it, because it was Goku's decision to use the Genki Dama, he made that choice, and no-one else had anything to do with it.

If their weren't any people around and Goku only took energy from plants, would that make the plants responsible for Buu's death?, of course not.

Its not even debateable, energy aside, Goku threw the Genki Dama, not the people of earth.

You are speaking in brief technicality.

Technically the people of Earth killed Buu, but Goku was the one who launched the attack.

 

[vinay87]

*Groans about reviving this thread*
Please stop this....

And lets continue.

Name all the cities in the Dragonball/z World.[.quote]