thanks for the advice =P the only thing is, i have to make this model fit the jka skeleton perfectly, and well, it does with the shoulders and head i'll do my best, but yeah, i can definately smooth his head out though. I dunno about his neck though, because the round part that attaches to the bandana would move with the body, and there is a loop of faces before the head starts, will that make the neck deform badly? i thought u would be able to see the movement of the neck if i did it like that >_<.