17 and 18

[SSJ Shin Carl]

Now I have come up with the best way I can to have these two in game.

* Normal Form *
Android 18 -
Starting PowerLevel: 780,000
Max Health: 105
Max Speed: 216

ATTACKS -
Melee
Ki Blast
Generic Beam/Generic Ball
Purple Renzoku Dance
Destructo Disk
Fast Ki Regen

* Transformation *
Android 17 -
Transform Powerlevel: 1,650,000
Powerlevel Multiplier: 1.0
Max Health: 110
Max Speed: 270

ATTACKS -
Melee
Ki Blast
Generic Beam
Ki Barrier
Fast Ki Regen

I shall now explain the attacks you aren't familiar with.

*Both*
Fast Ki Regen - Fast Ki Regen doesn't work on its own, you have to put effort into using it. FKR will be selectable in the attack rotation.

You have to select and hold it. While holding it, it will charge your ki 2x faster then the normal ki power up. The attack must be held down, for the ki to recover. This attack is not instant.

*Android 18*
Purple Renzoku Dance - PRD works as uncontrollable generic balls that shoot straight, and you cannot move while charging or shooting this attack, after the attack is over you have recover time of 2.2 secs.

There can only be 8 maximum. The Attack must be charged. It will be like a Generic balls machine gun.

*Android 17*
Ki Barrier - Ki Barrier works, by blocking and holding all the ki blasts that you absorb, the more ki blasts you shield away the more powerful the barrier becomes.

When you shield away a ki attack, Generic beam, ki blast, or a signatured beam (kamehameha) they fill up a side meter/bar, and when this meter is full you will be at maximum ki barrier capacity. Everythign else will just be blocked.

When you release all the ki that you have shielded away into the barrier, all the blasts will go out of all directions. Up, Down, Left, Right, Forward, Backward. Only 6 Blasts will shoot out at maximum.

The Recover time varies on how many blasts you will release, if you released all 6 then you will have a longer recovery time.

For this attack to not be spammed, If one of the people delivering the blasts is extremely more powerful then you, that blast they threw at you plus the blasts you absorbed will all fade the barrier away and hit you.


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On another note, The part with Cell having to absorb them both to become perfect body could come into play here also. I set to have 18 first because shes the one Cell needs last.

Making it harder for him because he needs 17 before he absorbs 18.

So he would have to wait for 18 to switch to 17, so it will be harder for him to absorb 17 because 17 will be transformed "he will get the pl multiplier thing it will just be an alternative switch though" So Cell will have to get his powerlevel high enough "1,900,000" his transformation power level, just to absorb 17.

Also after Cell absorbs 17, whoever who was using 17 and was absorbed has to become 18 again, but this time cannot transform into 17, but 18 will keep the power level and speed 17 had, but it will be 18 again. This time around it will be easier for Cell to absorb because hes much more powerful "pl wise" and faster now.

*EDIT* I added the Destructo disk to 18's move list.

 

[Gaara]

i like the idea but.
1. Android 18 should just be like krillin become a state you see later in the DBZ serie
2. Android 17 should become Super 17.
3. Not from 18 to 17 it would sux... if you reverted...! LMAO

 

[SSJ Shin Carl]

Um 18 shouldn't "Just be like anyone" or however you put it. 17 and Android 18 are supposed to be twins meaning they are equal in power, but i made 17 the transformation for 18 since, 18 fought Vegeta first and she fought in the series first, then 17 fought.

Plus 17 was going evenly with Piccolo, and Vegeta was going evenly with 18 until he became tired. So 17 is stronger, but Piccolo stated himself "17 you have the speed, but not the power." So he had to be a little bit weaker then Piccolo, but he wasn't that weak.

Super 17 was in GT, if you Read the Stickey it says NO GT ANYTHING DBZ ONLY.

 

[Renyori]

i like the idea but.
1. Android 18 should just be like krillin become a state you see later in the DBZ serie
2. Android 17 should become Super 17.
3. Not from 18 to 17 it would sux... if you reverted...! LMAO

1. 18 become a state later in the series??? So she gets a new outfit as a trans? Like atleast krillin gets stronger later in the series..
2. Super 17 is from GT and is way to strong stronger then Buu thats like Super Saiyan 4 being in esf
3. I think 18 to 17 is a good idea, it doesnt have to be a transformation it culd be an Alternate character

 

[Gaara]

1. 18 become a state later in the series??? So she gets a new outfit as a trans? Like atleast krillin gets stronger later in the series..
2. Super 17 is from GT and is way to strong stronger then Buu thats like Super Saiyan 4 being in esf
3. I think 18 to 17 is a good idea, it doesnt have to be a transformation it culd be an Alternate character

1. Krillin also just gets a new outfit, after he married 18 he dont fight anymore,he trains yes but he trains with 18, so thay both just get stronger and with new outfit
2. sry i forgot about thad, maybe change his outfit to the one he wears when he gives energy to Goku Vs Kid Buu
3. thad would be kinda meening less, becourse if you just change player it would sux thad if 18 gets stronger then 17 gets stronger too would be compleatly wird.

 

[SSJ Shin Carl]

18 and krillin did not train together. While Krillin was training, 18 and Marron was sitting there resting while watching him train. Plus the change outfit stuff is played out.

Krillin should just get a potential unlock, samething gohan got except it was from the Oldest Kaioshin. Anyway we aren't talking about that we are talking about 17 and 18's implementation into esf.

 

[erudin]

u could have all the moves of super android 17 but have him a different model therefore technicly its dbz then add your own model......lol.....i just want another character at least so either way

 

[Bihal]

I like this idea. It's creative. The interplay between Cell absorbing them I like also. Well done. No seperate characters or other transforms. It's good the way it is.

 

[SSJ Shin Carl]

I like this idea. It's creative. The interplay between Cell absorbing them I like also. Well done. No seperate characters or other transforms. It's good the way it is.

Thank you, currently im thinking of a good way to incorperate both Tenshinhan and Yamucha into the game, they will probably be alternatives to each other like 17 and 18.

 

[ViRaX]

Adding 17 and 18 in the playerlist is an idea i would like

Let cell absorbing them i don't like.

Just add 17 & 18 ass 2 characters, change there looks in a transformation, give them more power and maybe an extra attack, en that should be it.

 

[SSJ Shin Carl]

if u read my first post u would see i already did that.. Also changing there looks "clothes" in a transformation is pretty lame " Krillin " so it would be better for them to switch places as an alternative.

 

[Reptile]

well, maybe this can make it as some kind of game mode, defend the "not so defenceless" androids.

 

[niobe]

i like the idea...alot.
trans is lame, better do the tran's. just like piccolo.
and the Purple Renzoku Dance can be homing, not to strong but is verry fast and can move fast in corners like this one <.
and to add a attack for the trans in and 18/17, absorbe melee.
when you melee whit and 18/17 and you select this attack, you can absorbe a little bit power insted of kicking it out of him.
when he/she absorbed it, recover time 3 sec

 

[Bihal]

If you just add them as seperate characters with "new clothes" transformations, then what's the point? They'll be just another character. At least this is interesting.

 

[SailorAlea]

18 was slightly less powerful than 17.

Also, 18 should have Kienzan (Destructo Disc) like she does in the show and games.

 

[Ultima2_freeze]

I'm wondering how the team will do the "Giant Piccolo" transformation..........

 

[Optimus Primal]

I still got an question which you all missed i think.
Transform multiplier 1.0?!? That means the transformation is useless.
1x3 = 3 1x2= 2 I learn math well.
If it is only 1.1 the power increases but 1.0 that would be the same pl after transforming i think you come up with another transformation multiplier.
As part of your other idea's it ok for, me xept destructo disk for 18.

 

[SSJ Shin Carl]

i did that for a reason, 1. The android's have a fast ki regen, so for them to have a huge pl multiplier it would be pretty cheap to the other players who dont use them.

 

[Bihal]

Also, think about it. Transforming gives a slight boost to speed and health, but the main reason for transing or not transing is to play keepings off of cell I think. I though the 1 multiplyer was quite original.

 

[niobe]

the trans can't work(i just vind out), in 1.3 there wil be more trans. while they can only have max. 1 trans.
the trans can be a battle damaged android's, can't think of anything els.