World of Warcraft: burning crusade

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Well they have a problem with this new race, they have three proper options to choose from, the Naga, which would be the defenition of crap, the Pandaren which would be another fun race for 10 mins before being annoying, then finally draeni which are ugly, unwanted and annoying. its either one of those or there going to invent some BS story for a mob ingame >_>
They could also just add goblins to the alliance faction. But apart from that, yea - those three seem like the only feasable races from the WC3 storyline.




Anyway, an interesting article was posted on IGN, titled "The Lore of World of Warcraft" (Taken from fumoffu):

A panel of Blizzard storytellers and quest designers talk about the future of the Warcraft franchise at BlizzCon.
By Dave 'Fargo' Kosak | Oct. 28, 2005


Not everyone who plays World of Warcraft cares about the backstory, but there's always someone in every group who stops to read the quests or open up those old tomes scattered around the levels. For those who care to investigate, Warcraft has a rich history of characters and conflicts strecthing across several games and even a few novels. The story is tight: a whole team of people works to keep the fiction in line from one game to the next. Heading up this group of modern storytellers is Chris Metzen, who's been in charge of the Warcraft and StarCraft fiction from the very beginnings of the franchises.

At BlizzCon, Metzen and his team held a panel discussion for fans, spilling details about what's to come in the upcoming expansion pack, and dropping more than a few hints about the future of the franchise.

Metzen kicked things off by recapping 'the story so far...' If you haven't read the extensive backstory on the World of Warcraft website, here's a quick one-paragraph summary: At the dawn of time, the whole universe was Chaos, controlled by unchecked elemental forces. Then the Titans came along, bringing order to world after world. They dredged the oceans and formed the land, creating each as a cradle of life. In their travels they also came across opposing forces, forces who worshipped chaos and destruction. The greatest of the Titans rounded them up and imprisoned them. But his grim duty eventually got to him and corrupted him. He decided that the Titans had wasted their time, that creation was a folly, and he became bent on destroying it. He unleashed all of the demons that he'd imprisioned, and they became his army: The Burning Legion. "The Burning Crusade," the title of the expansion pack, is the name for his campaign to destroy all of creation. Tens of thousands of worlds have been undone by the Legion, but only Azeroth has fought back and won. Twice, in fact (once chronicled in the novels, and later as depicted in the Warcraft games.) That's where World of Warcraft picks up.

The expansion pack picks up the trail of this universal conflict. Why go with this theme? Metzen wanted to go big, to kick off a huge story arc that would span years. He wanted to take the conflict to cosmic porportions.

Thus, Burning Crusade allows players to go to The Outland, the remains of the Orc homeworld Draenor. Draenor was ripped apart in Warcraft II because too many portals were opened between it and other worlds, and only the self-sacrificing actions of a few heroes (those characters you see immortalized as giant statues outside of Stormwind) saved Azeroth from being torn apart as well. In Warcraft III, the fallen Night Elf (and half-demon) Illidan discovered The Outland and made it his home, closing all of the other portals. Follow all of this so far?

Good, because in the expansion, heroes can open up portals and take the fight to The Outland. Yes, you'll come toe to toe with Illidan and his minions, and you'll try to take him down. More importantly, from The Outland, characters will be able to open portals to other worlds that need help fighting the Burning Legion.

Possible Spoiler: Those heroes who sacrificed themselves to save Azeroth by closing the dark portal from the other side ... aren't dead. Yep, players will eventually be able to hook up with them. And Metzen promises that they'll be badass.




Metzen went on to explain the backstory of the Blood Elves, which we covered in this profile piece. Afterwards, the floor was opened up for questions from the audience.

Naturally one of the first questions was about the new un-announced Alliance race to be featured in the expansion. Metzen gave no hints, and implied that they're still working out all the details. But he did acknowledge that once everyone hears about the new race, part of it will make sense, and part of it will make everyone go "huh?" ...We can't even speculate. (But it won't be Pandas.)

One gamer asked why the Trolls would ally with the Blood Elves -- or any type of elf, for that matter. "I want that guy escorted out!" Metzen bellowed to laughter from the audience. But then he explained that the Horde is "an alliance of convenience." The Blood Elves hate dealing with the Trolls or the Orcs, but need their help to reach the Outland. And, while he didn't give details, Metzen explained that the Blood Elves have something the Horde desperately needs that helps to hold the fragile truce together. We expect more to be revealed in the game itself.

This led to a short discussion about the nature of The Outland. It's a rogue world, where there are no steady leaders to keep the fighting between the Horde and Alliance in check. The Outland is going to be a violent place, host to tons of conflict.

One question from a fan triggered off a discussion about the Dark Portal. Here, the development team admitted that they're experimenting with the idea of having a world event on all the servers, opening the Dark Portal, shortly before the release of the expansion pack. There's no guarantee that this will happen, but the idea is floating around.

Comedy ensued when a man in a Murloc costume grabbed the microphone and demanded reparitions from the cruel treatment lavished on his people, even to the point of giving "his children" away as a freebie during the event. (Everyone who attended Blizzcon got a code that they could use to unlock a baby Murloc pet in-game.) "When we make that 'Glurbleglurblgerglug' noise, that's not us screaming. That's us crying!" he said. The Murloc got no sympathy from the development team, and one of them pointed out that Blood Elf newbies will have an obligatory "kill a bunch of Murlocs" quest.

Finally, someone asked about Arthas. When are players going to get to beat him down? Metzen seemd to relish the prospect. "Oh yeah, he's gonna get his!" he said. But it's not going to happen anytime soon. "At level 70? No way!" Metzen said, "The game has to catch up to him." So yeah, that's one massive villain that players won't get to hammer on for quite some time... but he's out there, a looming presence, sneering in the distance. Someday friends! Someday.
I reckon it would be quite neat to go to the Outland and through the caverns of time fighting alongside and against the WCII/III/TFT heros. I just hope that level 60 epic items won't get replaced by level 70 green ones. Imagine those people who spent months getting rank 14 rewards >_>. Well, hopefully Blizzard has some sort of a solution planned out. And judging by the last paragraph of the above quote (Metzen's comment), Blizzard has a big future planned out for WoW, and the level cap will definitely go up again at some point. Hence, all those people who spend so much time doing end-game instances will have to repeat the whole process all over again to get the new epics that are unveiled with the newer instances/levels.
 
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I like that Azeroth is finally going to take the beef to the Legion.

I wonder what they're going to do with the Blood Elves' language...

Either way the idea of hundreds of elves everywhere in the horde lands is going to ruin the game. I'll still play it, but it is undoubtedly going to make it suck.
 
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hah. watch all horde players stage massive revolts and picket line blizzard studios. from every server. demanding blood elves be removed. >.>
 
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I don't really like Blood Elves, I mean.. I can see why they added them for the Horde (I dont really know much of the backstory) but ****.. They are elves. Look just like the nightelves except their blonde. I would rather naga's/pandaran but naga's would be weird for a playable class. But check this out..


EDIT:: Link was removed due to bandwith. Hmm.. It was a WOW picture of a pandaran. I'll try and find it.. The site was

http://img225.imageshack.us/full.php?image=155517wowpanda5km.jpg
 
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If they add the pandaren I'm quitting the game. That would just be turning it stupid. I'd rather have two new classes--or hero classes!--then two new races added just for the hell of it.
 
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This isnt good, they dropped a hint in blizzcon

"watch out for dissapearing leaves" - take a guess >_>

Glad i unsubscribed early now.
 
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Disappearing leaves inplies maybe pandas eating them... go figure.
 
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If you do, roll horde on Burning Blade and make sure you get ahold of me. Looking for new guild mates all the time with Ventrilo and a Microphone. Not to advertise but my cousin (he's in the guild) just bought 6 people in our guild Flurry Axes.. level 42 axes. Yeeeep.

I doth own now. Got it with lifesteal.
 
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Nice. Is your cousin from China, or just the person he ebay'ed that gold from? Err...couldn't you have PMed that?

I swear if it's Pandas I'm quitting the game. That will just be stupid.
 
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My thoughts.



Blood Elves: The Horde doesn't need a pretty race, But I can see why the Blood Elves would consider the Horde other than the officially mentioned reasons. Their home was completely destroyed and that well they draw power from tainted. They needed a new source of magic just to survive at all. So they turned to the Naga. Because of this, the Alliance, with home they've fought along side for like...forever, particularely the Humans, who they tought magic, turned against them, and shunned them. Essentially I can see alot of Resentment for the Alliance in that, and beleive they Do actually fit well, In a lose alliance with the rest of the horde, in the same fashion as the Forsaken do. Conveniance.

Draenai: I know nothing of them. Ugly and too primitive. They would probably end up being shamanistic, which would need a Shaman class. This would thus screw up the balance of the game, PvP wise.


Pandarans: They were featured in TFT in a single easter egg mission. Unless they get more plublicity, I dobt they will be in.


Centaurs: I bet few people thought of this one. It actually makes sense to me that the brutal Centaurs would be allied to the alliance. A chain of Alliance quests in Desolace lead you to befriending one of their clans in order to take over Desolace. Also, the Centaur are mortal enemies of a Horde race, the Tauren. I can imagine a loose alliance(Basically the way the Undead are to the rest of the Horde, neutral at first) and a unique class in there(since they really can't have Shamans. Probably just mages, Priests and the other odd classes there are.) Unfortunately, I already see the one other major flaw in this race as a playable one......Mounts. How do you get a mount for something that is already Half Horse. I don't know yet, but I imagine Blizzard could probably come up with some ****amany reason.


Items: I also agree. there shoudl not be greens above Epics. But I see a way. There ARE, however, Blues above Epics. So I say, nothing below a Blue beyond level 60. Or maybe even as far to say as There will only be epics and legendarys beyond 60. This may not make sense, but Unless Blizzard has a better idea, that will probably it.


Thats about all I can figure out for now.
 
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im pretty sure that Gnomes were only featured in a few lines of lore and descriptions of vehicles in wcII, never an ingame apperance, yet they got themselves an entire race. if you think about it, Pandaren have actually had more of an apperance than gnomes in warcraft, even a brewmaster was a playable character. it dosnt seem too far fetched from that angle in my eyes.

Currently in my eyes, they are either going to invent some lore for some form of timbermaw like uncorrupt furbolg as a playable race, or there going to invent some lore for pandaren. besides, if it wasnt going to be like this, i seriously doubt they would of hidden it from us in the first place ;o
 
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No way man. The gnomes have been involved since Warcraft II--the damn pandaren were a gimmick character released for the Warcraft III expansion pack. ONE character.

I see where they're going. Give the Alliance a big badass furry animal race and give the horde a frail pretty boy race to 'balance things out.' I'ma t work right now so I can't go into the many numerous reasons why it makes no sense for magic-addicted elves to join the shamanistic horde, but it's still stupid no matter how I seem to slice it. Pandas are just dumb...I didn't even like them in Warcraft III. Stupid stupid stupid.
 
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=x I don't like the undead teaming up with the life loving tauren either, but hey it happened and it works. Same goes for the Bloodelves joining the horde, they'll make it work.

I doubt the alliance race will be dranei or furbolg though. Both of them would probably have shamans, and shamans on the alliance side is just as bad as paladins on the horde side. Blizzard hasn't let me down before, so I doubt they will this time. I'm really looking forward to more details :3
 
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on a other note if anyone needs i can host some sort of communications program so you guys can use it to talk in game if you havn't already grown a custom to one.

i have no problem doing a team speak server or ventrilo but as every one knows with ventrilo the newest releases have a 8 man cap.'

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Man, I highly doubt pandarens will be the new race, every rumor about upcoming things in Warcraft had to do with Panadarens (WC3, the new race was said to be pandarens, but was later revealed to be Night elves...the pandaren express..now this) So I think it'll probably be the Draenai, or perhaps even the Centaur...but knowing Blizzard I'll probably be surprised...

Unless they give the alliance the race of "yellow orcs" then I'll be sad.
 

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It is totally going to be bronze dragonkin.
 
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Wow. I believe that was an advertisement. Check 'Chinese farmer advertises website on your forums' off the list on the road to being awesome.
 

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