The game made me do it!

[solidus]

IVe just realised something, ive been watching the news, listening to the radio about all of this, and ive heard more information about manhunt than the murder itself!
All know is that some kid killed another kid with a knife and a hammer. Thats it.
Some great reporting there.

 

[Jonesdaniel]

Personally, i would put the blame up on the parents. 90% of incidents like this were caused due to bad background life. He was playing an game rated too graphic for him to play, and his parents should definitly be aware if their children are playing such things (especially if their having mental problems to start, which i'm sure he was. He was also on drugs, and was in debt. He tried to get money off the kid, his friend i believe, he didn't have any and he killed him. How nice)

I say games should be treated like many other things too mature for children.

You don't see the porno mags mixed with the kiddy magazines. You don't see alcohol sold with the pop. I think games should be selved in age rating, U being at the bottom, 18+ at the top.

I'm more annoyed everyone ignores the fact that the games have ratings for a purpose, and this kid was under age. I kinda understand where the mother is coming from, at times like these, i'd be outraged if i were in her shoes but to blame a murder on a video game is just a bit absurd if you were to ask me.

Right, well thats my little rant over lol.

 

[Damaera]

That's kind of ****ing sad. But hell people can't control other people's mind.

 

[Soulicro]

We all know were right. Hell I think the people that are getting the games off the shelves know thats blaming games/movies/music/tv for **** like that know its all bs too. But what can they do? They cant really just go off at the mom telling her that it was really just all her fault and that her kid was crazy to begin with. It seems kind of immoral/rude. Dont get me wrong, I really dont want this sort of crap to keep happening, but lets face it... as long as there are things like this to blame crimes with, itll just keep happening. I just wonder whatll happen if they get all of it off the street. Who will they find to blame it on then?

 

[Jonesdaniel]

Once we've all be forced to convert back to pacman, it'll be put on other media like T.V and videos. (which could be just as bad, if not worse if he's watching something like a snuff film) Heck, at this rate, radios and books will be banned before soon >.>

 

[[SAS]Orion]

that story just makes me angry.
First of all the kid shouldn't have had access to the game, and secondly, it's just the parents trying to get some money by suing rockstar.
If the game had this effect, surely it would not just affect one individual?
In my opinion, the kid was messed up in the first place - they say the game "teaches you to kill".
Wrong - if I wanted to kill someone I could stab them - doesn't take a genuis to work that one out - the game is not a channel for someones education into the art of massacre.
Idiotic parents are my source for this, plus the messed up mind of the idiot son.

 

[Soulicro]

Seriously, if the parents did sue I dont think theyd win with the lawyer Rockstar could buy. Besides, whats their argument? "Our son killed this man because of YOUR game." "Really? Then why hasnt anyone else gone out there and killed someone. Or, better yet, why did your son even have access to the game? It had a rating of 18 ya know."
Simply put, it was the parents fault. So screw the *****y parents, screw the greedy lawyers, and screw the messed up kids... lets just all get back to playing video games.

And remember kids, killing is bad!

 

[NightShade]

for people blaming the moms and dads...Some kids just dont seem to listen. I was a punk kid myself and got into many fights at school.


So lets look at how things are.

If everyone likes a game. The cool people will always say man that crap sucks.
If mom and dad says dont do this and when you see other kids do it. Some kids want to do it more


This guy blaming video games for doing this is just a way of trying find a loophole. Or has some major issues.


We live in a world with censors. I think this is the reason all this crap happens. Also the fact that now moms and dads can get in trouble for spanking kids. This kid needed the living **** beat out of him.

 

[Soulicro]

The kid may not listen, ok, but then how the hell is it the video games fault?
I dont understand about the cool game line, didnt seem to relate to anything.
And, what, so youre saying mom and dad said dont kill anyone, he saw kids killing kids that often and he thought it was cool? That probably didnt happen, lol.

And, yes, the fact that parents can get in trouble for spanking their kids is screwed up (up to a cetain extent, ya know, if a parent is gonna beat the living **** out of their kid then yeah... thats not good) and yes, this kid probably just needed time to talk, or some more attention.

 

[Zeonix]

Ug....Im tired of all this bs. How tf is Max Payne not suitable for kids 15, 16 or w/e. Max Payne is The Matrix with a different character.

Anywho, im not surprised. This happens every time a game deemed "unsuitable for humans" by parents comes out. The amazing thing is that Manhunt didnt just come out. It was released quite a while ago.

If what JonesDaniel said is true (the part about being a drug addict and indebt), then obviously the game had little if anything to do with the murder. Junkies will go to amazing lengths to get cash for w/e drug they take. Maybe he thought about what he could use, and realized that Manhunt had weapons that you could find in most houses. It might have given him an idea of what he could use to kill someone with.

Basically, entertainment will continue to be blamed for the problems individuals have and we're gonna have to learn to get used to it (although we shouldn't have to). M-rated games are gonna be even harder to get now.

 

[NightShade]

The cool kids thing was to show how kids are very easy to go with a crowd no matter how cool something is or fun.

Add to fact that nothing could change a kids mind. Not even mom and dad. I was just trying to show that people are easy to sway.

It is her fault for letting him play the games. Yet mom and dad have no real power over kids that is the problem. If you spank them. They yell abuse. If you say dont go. They will anyway. You cant really stop them from eatting. Telling them to go to room and locking door. Calling cops on them. What can you do to a kid who does not listen?


We live in a world where people can play games be on net. Just escape all reality. We going have people who get them mix up and do stupid ****. Nothing anyone can do but blame the person not the game

 

[Soulicro]

Ill have to disagree with that, my parents and friends and people have changed my mind and were very important to me when it came to making decisions. But yes we kids these days are most likely to go with the crowd, although personally I wouldnt do anything stupid/harmful just to be "cool." Its a stupid form of acceptance, and itll just get you fake friends. Sad that it happens. And in this case, just about letting him play the game part, they couldve easily taken away his console. Or the game. They could have also asked him to get out more, and arrange more "family times." Whatever, you know what I mean. And yeah, if I was to have a kid and if he was that disruptive I wouldve called the cops if it was absolutely necessary.

 

[-JLN-]

The thing that gets to me the most about these situations, is that it's just something to back up putting age ratings on games, something that I completely disagree with. I mean, I'm 17, so it won't affect me much longer, but I hate walking into a store only to find that the game I want is rated 18. I see no point in it, half the population probably plays games and watches films that "aren't suitable" for them, and it's so easy for a young person to get these things anyway. They just ask parents, a friend or buy it online or from a less proffesional store.

About these people that are blaming it on the parents, well, that's BS. He was 17 for god sake, I don't know about you people, but as a 17 year old myself, I know that my parents have little/no control over what I do. Parents that do try to control anyone over 15, to the point where they decide what games they play and what films they watch, are taking things too far.

The fact of this situation is, his parents weren't to blame, Manhunt wasn't to blame, the kid himself is to blame.

 

[Soulicro]

JLN, youre right, deciding on every game is too far, but if you notice your kid is dangerously obsessed with a game, you should take action. She said it herself I think, that she knew he was obsessed with the game. They couldve atleast brought it up, which they probably didnt.

 

[Damaera]

Let's have the death penalty for the parent's for being the ****tiest parent's in the world.

 

[Grega]

well i say that if you arnt able to see a diference betwean something real and something not real you should get proffessionall help but if you say that out loud moast of thiose peuple will just laff straight in your face (this is a sad world we liv in yes)

 

[Snow]

for people blaming the moms and dads...Some kids just dont seem to listen. I was a punk kid myself and got into many fights at school.


So lets look at how things are.

If everyone likes a game. The cool people will always say man that crap sucks.
If mom and dad says dont do this and when you see other kids do it. Some kids want to do it more


This guy blaming video games for doing this is just a way of trying find a loophole. Or has some major issues.


We live in a world with censors. I think this is the reason all this crap happens. Also the fact that now moms and dads can get in trouble for spanking kids. This kid needed the living **** beat out of him.

100% agree with you, my dad likes to live like the way he did, so you can assure when i will a little 12 year old and i was being and ******* or not lisseing, i got the back hand. Did i care at the time, yes, do i now? NO if i didnt get the punishment i desserved i would be a little stupid punk who would not know how to take care of my self.

And I belive the line is "the gun doesnt shoot itself".

That kid is a moron who mentaly can not handel a came. You dont see me run out side and beat the **** out of my friend esf style after i play. The censorship is just bull****.

 

[Tassadar]

Ug....Im tired of all this bs. How tf is Max Payne not suitable for kids 15, 16 or w/e. Max Payne is The Matrix with a different character.

That is the most rediculous thing I've ever heard, the first Max Payne had a dead baby and a dead wife in the first level, a dead ****ing baby dude. That's why the game is rated M for MATURE and should NOT be played by anyone who cannot handle such intense violence.

Sure, I'm against the attacks on the gaming industry, but Rockstar is bringing this on themselves, they WANT **** like this to happen, otherwise they wouldn't make POINTLESS games like Manhunt. I've always believed one thing, if a man cannot decipher the difference between Virtual Reality and Reality then he shouldn't be in the PUBLIC to begin with.

I think sometimes people like Lieberman take gaming violence too far, but it is a problem, whether you like it or not. I'm for the gaming industry, but if companies like Rockstar keep pushing the boundries whether it be chopping up bodies in Manhunt or seeing dead babies in Max Payne (while it was a GREAT game, it is not something young people should be playing), then the companies deserve to be punished.

As for some dumb kids that do something stupid, blame the lawyer, it's the LAWYER that uses the 'game made me do it' defense. The perpitrators deserve the full extent of the law, despite what VIRTUAL REALITY might have MADE them do.

Blame the parents, that's what I say, most 13-15 year olds don't have a job, so who is the one that buys them the X-Box and all the Mature rated games? The parents obviously. While the children deserve the full extent of the law, the parents should see fines for giving their children games that are not meant to be in their hands in the first place.

 

[NightShade]

That is the most rediculous thing I've ever heard, the first Max Payne had a dead baby and a dead wife in the first level, a dead ****ing baby dude. That's why the game is rated M for MATURE and should NOT be played by anyone who cannot handle such intense violence.

(i agree with this)

Sure, I'm against the attacks on the gaming industry, but Rockstar is bringing this on themselves, they WANT **** like this to happen, otherwise they wouldn't make POINTLESS games like Manhunt. I've always believed one thing, if a man cannot decipher the difference between Virtual Reality and Reality then he shouldn't be in the PUBLIC to begin with.

(Bashing rockstar saying they want this is like saying we all want to world to end. Manhunt was not pointless game. It was a mature game that was alot of fun to people who can handle it. In fact i like the style manhunt used it was a new and nice gaming exp)

I think sometimes people like Lieberman take gaming violence too far, but it is a problem, whether you like it or not. I'm for the gaming industry, but if companies like Rockstar keep pushing the boundries whether it be chopping up bodies in Manhunt or seeing dead babies in Max Payne (while it was a GREAT game, it is not something young people should be playing), then the companies deserve to be punished.

(the only person who needs to be punished is the people who cant handle it. Censors do more harm then good. one day we going have games where we play monsters and eat peoples guts.Or even more real looking games. If people in this world stupid enough cant handle it. Then lock them up and throw away the key. Sounds harsh? Companies dont need to be punished at all. They give what people want.)

As for some dumb kids that do something stupid, blame the lawyer, it's the LAWYER that uses the 'game made me do it' defense. The perpitrators deserve the full extent of the law, despite what VIRTUAL REALITY might have MADE them do.

(Even if the games help with this. The person at fault is him. This **** use to happen with tv in 80s also. People blame guess what? Tv)

Blame the parents, that's what I say, most 13-15 year olds don't have a job, so who is the one that buys them the X-Box and all the Mature rated games? The parents obviously. While the children deserve the full extent of the law, the parents should see fines for giving their children games that are not meant to be in their hands in the first place

(I agree moms and dads should know. Yet in a perfect world. Kids dont listen. Plus watching your kids 24/7 and trying to know everything they do... Noway it could happen. In a normal world. Mom and dad has to trust son doing the right thing. Saying she should have stop him from playing. I bet she would have. If she knew he would be a total wacko in the head. So as far as mom and dad part. Yes they should try harder.Yet noway the could know. The only person to blame is the kid. Not the family)

 

[Big Kyle]

To lazy to read the posts so I will just say what I want to say even if its been said.

They say this to get a chance to goto the Insane asylum so they can get away with murder and blame it on something as stupid as a video game.

That is what I think, flat out.