SSJ ki burning...

[thefakegame]

I think being in ssj form should create a constant burning of ki, something to make going ssj a dissadvantage. Maybe a ki burn such as the one you get while flying will do. Then for levels above ssj1 i think there should be time limits on how long you can stay in the form.

Once you reach perfect trans for ssj1 the ki burn stops and you could stay ssj without penalties. Then for levels after ssj, there should be a time limit for how long you can stay ssj2 or ssj3.

After reaching perfect trans for those levels, theres a huge ki burn but then your allowed to stay ssj2 or 3 for as long as you like, the saiyans should have some dissadvantage since they have a multiplier of 2 for there trans while all other chars have 1.5. Anyone think something sort of like this should be added?

 

[Naruto Kun]

Yeah, I agree, because in the show they cant stay in the form forever, except wen goku and gohan were training for the cell games.

 

[harSens]

Being a ssj does already burn ki (or makes your ki grow less fast if you don't do anything). Right now we're experimenting with higher ki-burns/lower ssj ki efficiency to balance their high powerlevel multiplier.

 

[Cold Steel]

You are right, allthough, the more transformations you can reach, or let's just say the higher your pl is, the lower the ki burning should be. Just like the show, when the saiyans got stronger they could substain their ssj form more easily, and longer.

 

[TwisteR]

but whenever ssj3 comes into play, it should be totally different. goku or gotenks couldnt hold that form for very long.

 

[shadowsaiyan17]

How bout they get 10 kills and go back to normal if there ssj3.?

 

[Jakut]

I kinda dont like the 10 kills idea. Maybe a time limit?? Say about 5-10 min?

 

[Grega]

whel Goku couldnt hold the SSJ3 form because he jus lernd hiw to reach that form (thats what he said anyway) and Gotenks had enough energy but the fusion didnt alow him to stay in that form for long
i realy like the idea of ki burning but if u are triing to become realy strong raly fast u should fight in the normal form cause the pl increase is twice as fast as the SSj form

example: (lets just say that u have 4 strengh and u get 4 for the kill)
SSJ 8 (before) 12 (after) 4 (increase) 4 (SSJ increse) 12 (SSJ after)
normal 4 (befoore) 8 (after) 4(increase) 8 (SSJ increse) 16 (SSJ after)

understand what im triing to say the more the SSJ level the less the pl increase

 

[Cold Steel]

Goku couldn't hold the form so long, because he was dead as can be, when he was back to the living, he could hold the form much longer, so there must not be a time limit, simply a ki burn that's about the same as flying. Should be sufficient enough.

If there was a time limit, people would kill themselves everytime they allmost run out of time, to ascend to ssj3 again, then n00bs would call them ssj3 lamer and ****. We allready have enough ki whores and big bang sluts.

 

[Miki800]

lol ColdS,
even though it is very true it sounds so freaken funny!!!
and I think that those sort of discussions should wait till the 1.2 is out!
I wait for that b4 I can post about 1.3 ( transes more then SSJ {=A\USSJ2\3})
so should you!!!

anyway back on topic!(WHY?) :::
when Goku fought kid Buu he was
ki whored (ROLF!! what I just said?) by Buu

and he was too weak cause of the attacks
I dont know how much time he fought bUU after wards....
cause if he fought him like 20 min then its a noobie trik
-you dont have to die, you just have to power down and then
ReAcend - WOW the limit is recounting
so there should be that Limit counting even after I power down
so It wont be abused

in the series I think its limit of 20 minutes
in the game it should be less and so less realistic cause WSF
is a fast game and there is no time for 20 minutes!!!

I also like the suggestion of ki cuts above very much!!! }P-)

*EDIT*: I am too sleepy to mension it right away but since you dont know I talked about this suggestion refering to SSJ3

 

[Skiwan]

the reason that goku couldnt stay in ssj3 form was because it needed so much energy to sustain it, but this is the same with any ssj level, but as their powerlevel increases through training the less ki is burned because they learn how to control it, take a look at the first time gohan went ssj, he could sustain it long because he didnt have enough power to control/sustain it, but as he got more powerful he was able to go about his daily life while ssj. Its pretty simple, a new SSJ level demands more energy, but if you only had just enough power to transform, then you wouldnt have much of energy in the transformed state for the transformation to consume. So you couldnt stay that level for very long, but as they become stronger they have more control over a ssj form and less energy is waisted, plus they have more energy to be consumed by the transformation, so it lasts longer. So in my opinion, the higher your powerlevel, the less ki should be consumed by a transformation, at perfect transformation i think little or no ki should be burned.

 

[Hashsama]

WHY WOULD YOU WANT A CONSTANT BURNING OF KAI WHEN GOING SSJ IS CLEARLY AND ADVANTAGE TYPE OF THING!!! ARE YOU MADD!!!! JUST DONT GO SSJ IF YOU DONT WANT THE ADVANTAGE. THINK MAN THINK! O_O

 

[Culex]

Hash, why wouldn't you want an advantage?

 

[Ness]

Erm.... Cold Steel? Goku could hold SSJ 3 for longer when he was in Other World.... He said it clearly in the show..... And Gotenks could hold SSJ 3 for ages. Its just appeared that he couldn't because the fusion wore off faster when he went SSJ 3 or something.

 

[Culex]

supershenlong, you also have to think about balancing. Even though they could hold it for long periods of time, it was not as long as SSJ or SSJ2. Its a tremendous power boost, and it has to be worked in with the other characters.

 

[Sonic the Vampire]

Lower power level is a disadvantage to both ki and melee. More techniques is nice but you have no chance in a power struggle and depending on how they worked melee struggles into 1.2 you may not have much luck there either. Having a super-saiyajin's ki burn a little faster than his weaker opponents wouldn't kill his advantage, it would just be a tiny bit of balance that could go a long way (maybe Goku can only get off two fully charged kames before having to charge up if his ki burned a little quicker, which might make him just a tad harder to use).

 

[Bihal]

I agree with the balancing idea. All for it, I think it's awesome.

As for SSJ3, yes, you could say it's just like the other in terms of needing experience and practise, but I think there was an upper limit reached there.

The only people to go SSJ3 were Goku and Gotenks. (You can correct me if you think I'm wrong.)
Goku could do it because, well, he's Goku and he's awesome, and Gotenks could do it because he was a fusion. Goku could hold SSJ3 you only a short time, because it was so ki intensive. Whilst he got over this in the other SSJ levels, I think SSJ3 was a strain even for him. Everyone has their limits, some SSJ's don't get past certain transformations. I think SSJ3 was just exponentially harder to maintain than the previous levels.

It makes sense that he could hold it for longer when he was dead, since it seems he doesn't have to worry about any strain on his body, because he apparently doesn't have one (which is why he can use Kaio Ken in SSJ form only when he's dead).

 

[Hashsama]

im not the one saying i want the disadvantage. im all for advantage if i can get it, im saying to the one guy instead of a constant burning of kai to have a disadvantage just use the decend.

 

[Warbandit]

I think it should be like transformation. First time Major Burn. Doing it more, used to it=not much burn. Also i think that when transforming for the powerlevel u hold the button and power up to your ssj powerlevel limit and stop so u dont have to wait so long for a powerlevel and chose your level instead except for the first few times like 2 or 3

 

[Cheeto101]

i think this would be a good thing to put in 1.3, specially if you made ki burn pl dependant. I mean, start of match, ssj has a decent burn= harder to use. Then as the players pl rises, the burn gets less and less. Eventually he gets a perfect trans = No Burn. Buutt then, (if they put new trans into 1.3) they got ssj 2 with lotsa burn.

I dunno, it sounds pretty dbzish to me.