So I'm a theif. PLEASE READ.

[SS_Vegeta]

If you had real reasons to flame sharp I would accept it, but since you don't, get over it.

He is. He is accusing me of something I didn't do. I have respect for him as a modeler. We both have our higher qualities. But thats not the problem here. He messaged me on icq and basically told me I was a theif. I will not stand for that.

He has no real hard evidence that I did anything along those lines, and if he does I would like to see it. And even if he did, I didn't steal Pyrofragger's Base Model. I dont know if he's jealous or what. Or maybe he's doing this to get some publicity and make ESF look bad. All I have to say, in that case is, thats pathetic.

 

[[SAS]Orion]

I know sharp wouldn't do something like that to out esf down, as he is always deleting threads that try and insult another mod. I'm not trying to say you're a bad modeller, because your not.
I am disgusted by the maturity shown be several members in this thread, and that is part of the reason i'm unhappy.
Just to let you know, i've never seen more spammers in one place.
Other than that, i've no problem with any of you.

 

[SS_Vegeta]

I highly doubt you are "disgusted". Rather displeased by them I would think. Never the less he is accusing me. I can prove it to you if you'd like.

 

[fatmanterror]

a million bucks says the rage will become a mod like dbz super dimension or whatever the hell its called, 2nd class and quickly forgotten, maybe not, it does look good, but it was gay that he called u a theif because if that were true everybody who played bfp would notice and ive played it alot and i can tell they r different

 

[[SAS]Orion]

Believe it or not, i am disgusted.
I rarely see 3 or 4 posts in a row using immature language, especially not fro ma moderator. I think he should be kicked off from being a mod, because he is not acting sensibly enough.

So fatman, sharp calling someone a theif imediatly makes their mod "2nd class"? I think not

 

[SS_Vegeta]

Granted Orion, but put yourself in our shoes. Imagine being accused of what he accuses me of. Then you go and not be a dick to anyone.

 

[[SAS]Orion]

All you have to do is send him pics of your model being made. At least, that's what i'd do
I'm a calm person. I've been bullied all throught my life for being a twin, it get's me angry, but I don't go and take it out on other people.

 

[[RAW]Tepus]

I agree with you Orion, all the members who have just come on and flamed sharp is un called for too, they have no reason to yell at him like that, SS_Vegeta does, but they dont

 

[|DbZ| Android16]

yeah, we do have a reason to yell at that ****er... SS_Vegeta works very hard to help this mod so we can enjoy it. and sharp's mod is not getting any prgress at all and is pure gayness so he tries to make others look stupid just because his mod blows.... he needs to grow up and realize that some people actually have skills and SS_vegeta is a better modeller than him. he is just jelous of SS_Vegeta's awesome skills and we should all support SS_Vegeta in this false accusation....

 

[Vassago]

ARGH

Some of you obviously have no clue about anything.

LASER - The halflife engine can handle WAY more than 700 polygons without slowdown. Maybe your PC is just shitty? Could be. I use 1500+ poly player models in CS and DoD with no slowdown at all.

And to Orion, I saw it perfectly fit to flame another person in this case. He is accusing my fellow team member of ripping a model from BFP of all places. BFP is crap in my opinion. The models are o-k but the skins are bland. The gameplay of BFP just doesn't feel right either. So when this Sharp guys is accusing my team mate of doing something as disgusting as ripping, yes I believe I have to right to say something about it. SS has shown me his work in progress on all his newer models, proof that he is making them on his own. But when someone just blatently blabs out RIPPER! RIPPER! with no proof, thats defineatly going to get his ass flamed.

Gee, I guess since my cell models are over 1000 polys then must be ripped from BFP also!!!!!

OMG how COULD I??

.......................yea

 

[DiebytheSword]

"Who's better" is a moot point. SS_Vegeta works hard on those models as I am sure Sharp does. What is important here is that throwing accusations at people without evidence is not only wrong but it's against the very meaning of the word "community."

We all assemble on line to see the game, the experience furthered. I will have a copy of BFP and ESF on my machine and that is because they are both excellent mods from a community of gamers who want to take the games a step foward.

Alot of hard work is done on any project like these two and plagiarism is and should be the bane of every one who bleeds, sweats, and types there soul into a mod. It's ok to be careful, but it's not to be paranoid.

[/EndRant]

 

[xstortionist]

Hey guys, I just wanted to tell you all that I am certain that SS Vegeta didn't steal anything. Hell he has helped me out alot with modeling, ever since I showed him my first Goku model, he has helped me out, and that was about 3-4 months ago. I know for a fact that he didn't steal anything, but I do know that sharp isn't a great modeler. Hell I seen his base model, and I showed him up with my model I made in milkshape. Well, anyways, I hope they do think they ss vegeta stole from BFP or where ever. Cause that just shows everybody how jeolouse people can get

Oh yea most of my models are 900-1000 poly's too so is that concidered stealing?

 

[xstortionist]

Originally posted by [SAS]Orion
oh, sharps from the rage
You should learn not to insult. i've known sharp a while, and I know he's a good modeller. How can you say he's a bad modeler if you havn't seen his work?

You really should grow up. Your immature
comments will get you nowhere in life.
You're all sticking up for SS_Vegeta like he can do no wrong. I've seen a few pics of his work, and I honestly I think Sharp's a better modeller.
If you had real reasons to flame sharp I would accept it, but since you don't, get over it. It happens all the time.

Alright kiddy boy, You say there is no real good reason to flame sharp right? Well, You are wrong this time buddy. Everybody has a reason to flame Sharp for accusing somebody of doing something. Now you tell me something.....how does sharp know that SS Vegeta stole????? He doesn't that's the thing, and for him to say that somebody is a theif, and he doesn't have full blown proof....well, that is just wrong, and I think this is a damn good reason to flame Sharp.

Oh, Yea. you say sharp is a better modeler right? Well, I don't think he is that great of a modeler. Cause he uses 3D max for his models, and that is the only reason why they look half way decent. If SS Vegeta converted his model to 3D Max they would look a hell of alot better then Sharp's.

 

[The Stinger]

sorry for that pic of vegeta :laff:
i know why its like that now.
and just want to say that esf is doing great.Nice mod!
xstortionist you only seen a base model of sharp that wasnt even finnished yet.and about you showing sharp...well i looked but i could find your post with you model in it =\
and btw why are we starting a flamewar here?
whats the point?I mean one starts to flame an other and then he sarts flaming back and an other joins and so on.And wha would we accomplice.one mod hating an other mod.If you guys wanna go and hate the other mods be my guest.but the best would be if we all some good crit and some suppored we all could get along.
And about the model....I think it will be solved...this argument I mean

 

[xstortionist]

THe flamewar has already started and I'm just tring to put the fire out.

 

[The Stinger]

well you love flam wars then?
well good for you.so dont you have anything better to do?
help a mod maybe?

 

[Hibiki]

ok thats enough out of u 2... if sharp says u stole it he needs to supply evedence that u did not just some wild clame....

 

[-[gF]-Tien]

when did all these "The RAge" forum members join this forum?
im not flaming just curious ^.^
anywayz we welcome you :laff:

 

[Spitfire]

Do you guys ever notice that Sharp ALWAYS accuses good modelers of stealing? Now be serious, I showed him a model I was animating, the worst model ever made and also made by me might I add, and he said I stole it. I think Sharp is a good modeler but he can get too jealous at times. He should think about his own work and not others. He should start acusing others if they are on his mod team or if he has all the facts and is 100% sure it is a stolen model. He should get the facts before he makes accusations, no? Well I'm not sure if some agree with me and I won't prevent you from not but this is my point of veiw flame if you want I wouldn't care.

 

[[ESF]zero]

first off i have never flamed a person b4 on this forum for anything, but i draw the line on this one. not only does calling ss a thief a insault to him but to me and the rest of the team as well. we work very hard on this mod and for the fans. i personaly sleep 3 hours a day and dont do anything but bust my ass on this mod. so, if i feel the need to flame a mutha-****a' for his stupid comments i will. and orion, if u dont like it get the **** of the forum cuz as a fan u to should be enraged on his comments towards ss. and as for sharp......well if he would mind his own ****ing buisness and stop calling people thieves, then i would not have to take a break form this mod to flame his ass. what many peeps dont understand is were not making this mod cuz we are bored and have nothing better to do, we are doing this so we can learn and increase our skillz and form together as a good, solid working team. we have plans for the future, as a team. so what would be the point of us stealing another mods model. do we learn, no we don't. but like ss said if he can some how, some way prove that we stole somthing then and only then will i let go from flaming his ass. but untill that day comes he can eat shit and choke on his fat moma's fish tainted **** hair.



oh and have a merry ****ing christmas to biatch.