Second Fire Renzoduken Dan.

[GoldSaiyan]

Hm, it may be unbalancing, unless if it get some nice tweaks.
But, the second fire should have somekind of "Gattling" gun effect.
If you keep holding the second attack button, Vegeta begins firing one blast, after a few seconds his rate of fire increases.
The longer the button is pressed, the more faster he will shoot.

Ofcourse, Ki energy will suffer by the rate of fire and will be drained within seconds.

 

[Shuyin]

ok so basically we would have this? :

(open in new window)http://www.valkyriearms.com/sounds/gatling.au

 

[GoldSaiyan]

Yes, but ofcourse, the gattling effect must not be instant.
Like a gattling gun, it must spin spin and spin, and eventually, it achieves full speed.

 

[KilledWithStyle]

Maby it should start out at 1/2 of normal ki blast speed for 2 shots.
Then 1 for 3
then 1.5 speed for 4
2 speed for 5
and it should keep gpoing exponetallyy up to like 20

But it should be a slow drain for vegeta, cause if you ever notice he keeps those attacks going for a while.
Like when he did it to frieza.

However they will be weaker attacks(not the full damage of normal ki blasts.)

 

[Sonic the Vampire]

Unfortunately it would be easily countered by holding block or firing almost any kind of beam. It also seems like it would be a little unfair melee-wise because you could just turn and do massive damage to anybody near you. It would be spammed from the corners of the map, especially after they've gone SSJ. Just make his current renzoku charge longer and send out more blasts.

 

[Evgenij]

If you ever watch the DBZ.. then tell me did you ever see that Vegeta actualy charged a Renzoku this long???

In Saiyan Saga it took him about 2 seconds to fully charge it with power level about 20 000... but in ESF with power Level of 850 000 hi will charge them for about 5 second and make only 6 kil bals instead of couple of Hundred like in the show.

 

[Barry-White]

i quite like this idea of having a galtling gun effect, like that of yuris tanks in RA.

However what would the max rate of fire be, imagine a glitch where it just kept getting faster and faster (obv wouldnt happen but still)

basically how fast would it go and would it still creat ki blobs, as you could create quite a few with a machine gun ki blast so to speak.

 

[GoldSaiyan]

Unfortunately it would be easily countered by holding block or firing almost any kind of beam. It also seems like it would be a little unfair melee-wise because you could just turn and do massive damage to anybody near you. It would be spammed from the corners of the map, especially after they've gone SSJ. Just make his current renzoku charge longer and send out more blasts.

Renzoduken dan is very easy to block. It is a quick attack, that is ment to hit targets rapidly.
Besides, if you didn't noticed, Piccolo's scattershot stops at some moments if he created too many blasts.
This could happen to Vegeta's Renzoduken dan, if he uses it too much. He'll get 'exhausted' and stops for a few seconds before he can use it again. This will take care of the SSJ transformation, so he can't spam it.

But why should people spam this? This attack is barely a planet destroyer, so most of the time people will use this attack in melee situations.

Unfair melee advantage, alright, there are some characters out there with cheap attacks, for example Buu.
But that is ESF for you.
No mercy!!!!

 

[-SsJ- Jp]

i dont think the renzokuden should need charging. as soon as u hold the fire button he should start blasting away (ov course this way alot ov ki will be lost) but the longer u hold the shooting button the faster and stronger the renzokuden should be.. and he should be able to waste his whole ki on it... daz my opinion....