Saturn becomes a star?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD8z7cnvxBU

Wow... I thought it was pretty interesting. I'm not sure if this is possible, but it seemed pretty feasible to me.
I don't believe one thing that video stated. Project Lucifer is supposedly a secret project designed to create another sun in our solar system, the planet of choice is apparently Saturn. The projects goal was to fulfill a prophecy or something like that.
 
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The part when it said it could kill millions scared the **** out of me. Since the planet rotates all the time, Saturn's radiation would bake us up quite nicely.
 
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I don't believe one thing that video stated. Project Lucifer is supposedly a secret project designed to create another sun in our solar system, the planet of choice is apparently Saturn. The projects goal was to fulfill a prophecy or something like that.
Yea i think that "project lucifer" was a load of ****.. but the concept of an impact/explosion on the surface creating and sustaining a fusion reaction seemed feasible. But the only way that could happen is if the plutonium somehow detonated by means of fission... which isnt possible unless a critical mass was created and imploded.

Meh, i thought it was interesting.. thats why i posted it.
 
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Well damn if it happens it happens we gotta die some day........but the crazy thing is they found they send pics of the hurricane on the same day as my bday 0_0
 
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Well if this IS true somehow, I say **** that. Way too dangerous to be messing around with an enitre planet's atmosphere. Especially with my Saturn.

Nobody messes with my Saturn.
 
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^ Pulls out check book and writes a reality check.

Earth is 91 to 94.5 million miles from the much larger and more powerful Sun.

Earth is 821.19 million miles from the laughably small "star" Saturn.

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So, Saturn is exploding due to Jupitar's atmospheric pressure?? How does that classify Saturn as a star?
Starts only explode due to the lack of fuel. Take out sun for example. Thats a star, it's currently running on Hydrogen. After thats run out, it'll start to use Helium. [By then we'll be dead - Red Giant]. After all the helium has be used, the Sun will settle down into a white dwarf. Our stars are far to small to explode. You need a star 10x the size of our Sun in order to produce a supernova. Its weird how they've classified it. Comment me if im wrong, I learnt this in science >_<

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From what i could understand.. they were gonna slam that space probe into the planet. The probe is powered by 72 lbs of Plutonium and when it hits that planet an explosion will occur... that explosion will be so hot that the hydrogen will start to fuse and a fusion reaction would be sustained.

But im not sure, i skimmed through the video. Correct me if im wrong. (which i probably am)
 
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Plutonium?? AKA ATOMIC BOMB- URANIUM.

So, in other words, they're going to plant an atomic bomb on Saturn.
Why the hell would they want to do that. What are they trying to achieve by doing that?? >_<

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Plutonium?? AKA ATOMIC BOMB- URANIUM.

So, in other words, they're going to plant an atomic bomb on Saturn.
Why the hell would they want to do that. What are they trying to achieve by doing that?? >_<

-Guzzie
Nuclear weaponry can be made with both plutonium and uranium. And im not sure if im right, thats just what i thought is whats going on.

And i dont think the plutonium will detonate. In order to do that you need to either bombard a sub-critical mass of plutonium with another sub-critical mass of plutonium OR have the plutonium implode... which is the only possible way this can work.


Guzzie its not gonna happen, i just thought it was interesting to post. Thats all... dont sweat it.
 
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Nuclear weaponry can be made with both plutonium and uranium. And im not sure if im right, thats just what i thought is whats going on.

And i dont think the plutonium will detonate. In order to do that you need to either bombard a sub-critical mass of plutonium with another sub-critical mass of plutonium OR have the plutonium implode... which is the only possible way this can work.


Guzzie its not gonna happen, i just thought it was interesting to post. Thats all... dont sweat it.

No you are right. The movie talks about crashing a probe into Saturn. Plutonium is stronger than Uranium, so yeah they do make a difference, just to correct Guzzie. But why wouldn't it work? Dozens of nuclear bombs and reactions have gone off to know how to detonate one on Saturn.

The information on this 'project' says that making Saturn into a Sun-like object would let its moon Titan, which could be very similar to Earth, warm up to be livable.
 
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No you are right. The movie talks about crashing a probe into Saturn. Plutonium is stronger than Uranium, so yeah they do make a difference, just to correct Guzzie. But why wouldn't it work? Dozens of nuclear bombs and reactions have gone off to know how to detonate one on Saturn.
I figured that it wouldnt work because the subcritical mass of the plutonium wouldn't detonate by impact. The only way it would detonate is if it was bombarded by another subcritical mass of plutonium... or if it imploded.

It seems unlikely that either of them will happen. The probe has plenty of plutonium to start a fission reaction. But the only way it will detonate is if one of the two possible ways i stated above occur... and that can only happen if human intervention occurs and the fuel powering the probe was built to detonate... which it isnt.

As far as i know, the fuel used in this probe isnt weapons grade... so im not sure if it will detonate. But i dunno... im not entirely sure.
 
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So, Saturn is exploding due to Jupitar's atmospheric pressure?? How does that classify Saturn as a star?
Starts only explode due to the lack of fuel. Take out sun for example. Thats a star, it's currently running on Hydrogen. After thats run out, it'll start to use Helium. [By then we'll be dead - Red Giant]. After all the helium has be used, the Sun will settle down into a white dwarf. Our stars are far to small to explode. You need a star 10x the size of our Sun in order to produce a supernova. Its weird how they've classified it. Comment me if im wrong, I learnt this in science >_<

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Yeah, except for the fact that a sun doesn't explode, but rather implodes. After the sun has turned into a white dwarf (which will take at least another 5 billion years before our sun does that) it will collapse under it's own gravity, imploding into a supernova or blackhole (if the sun's mass is like...what was it? 10 times larger than our sun?) I don't know what will happen when our sun is out of fuel, it will probably just die out like a candle.

Anyway, chances of Saturn turning into a second sun? Small. Chances of Saturn killing us off with radiation. Highly unlikely.
For a sun to exist and burn, you will need massive temperatures to perform a fusion of hydrogen. (read, 1 million+ Celsius) And the 1 million+ Celsius is only true if you have some massive gravity(read, mass of the sun is needed). Something which Saturn does not have. Saturn doesn't have nearly enough mass to be able to perform fusion at merely 1 million Celsius. At earth's mass/gravity, an estimated...100 million degrees Celsius (or something like that) is needed for fusion. If it's not that temperature, fusion is just impossible (unless you increase the pressure, by having more gravity)

Seeing as how Saturn doesn't have nearly enough mass, and that one plutonium nuke is highly unlikely to change Saturn's gravity, chances of Saturn becoming a second sun is not high.

On a side note, wasn't that black spot on Jupiter in the movie, one of Jupiter's moons?
 
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Out sun is not expected to go supernova, IIRC, it will become a red giant though, and own all of the inner planets as it expands.
 
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Yeah it's true what you say:



Wikipedia said:
Life cycle

<dl><dd> Main articles: Formation and evolution of the solar system and Stellar evolution
</dd></dl> The Sun's current age, determined using computer models of stellar evolution and nucleocosmochronology, is thought to be about 4.57 billion years.<sup id="_ref-Bonanno_0" class="reference">[5]</sup>
The Sun is about halfway through its main-sequence evolution, during which nuclear fusion reactions in its core fuse hydrogen into helium. Each second, more than 4 million tonnes of matter are converted into energy within the Sun's core, producing neutrinos and solar radiation; at this rate, the Sun will have so far converted around 100 Earth-masses of matter into energy. The Sun will spend a total of approximately 10 billion years as a main sequence star.
The Sun does not have enough mass to explode as a supernova. Instead, in 4-5 billion years, it will enter a red giant phase, its outer layers expanding as the hydrogen fuel in the core is consumed and the core contracts and heats up. Helium fusion will begin when the core temperature reaches around 100 MK, and will produce carbon and oxygen. While it is likely that the expansion of the outer layers of the Sun will reach the current position of Earth's orbit, recent research suggests that mass lost from the Sun earlier in its red giant phase will cause the Earth's orbit to move further out, preventing it from being engulfed. However, Earth's water will be boiled away and most of its atmosphere will escape into space.



Following the red giant phase, intense thermal pulsations will cause the Sun to throw off its outer layers, forming a planetary nebula. The only object that will remain after the outer layers are ejected is the extremely hot stellar core, which will slowly cool and fade as a white dwarf over many billions of years. This stellar evolution scenario is typical of low- to medium-mass stars.<sup id="_ref-future-sun_0" class="reference">[6]</sup><sup id="_ref-Sackmann_0" class="reference">[7]</sup>
 

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