One suggestion for 1.3

[just1question]

i just wanted to make a suggestion for the esf team about 1.3. i was playing budokai the other day and i liked how goku can warp kameha so close and shoot the other guy without getting hurt. :idea: would it sound like a decent idea for whoever is shooting the blast to not get hurt by it if it is far enough... ?and when i say far enough i dont mean like teleporting distance. so if u did a warp kameha, u wouldn't have to teleport like 3 times before its safe to shoot. this is just a thought, leme know if u like or dislike or even hate the idea :cry: i can take the abuse

 

[Raven Blade]

discussion of having tele-kamehameha has been brought up before, and the idea never goes down well. The fact it would severly unbalance gameplay is just one reason why it wouldnt be implemented into ESF.............

 

[Chakra-X]

Sad, but true.

 

[SSJ Shin Carl]

Too bad you didn't really read his post. What he means is "Could you make it so when you shoot a blast, and it explodes close to u for it not to hurt you.

 

[Eon]

Moved to Suggestions.

 

[SuperDragonFist]

Sounds alright might unbalance Goku more so, but if you put a limit on it say 1 tele per KHH or the more you teleport the more damage you will take if it’s up close.

 

[MajinDruu]

Actually this is rather a good point , Its annoying how when you do a kamehehameha or other strong beam attack up close when a n00b is chargeing you , 9 times out of 10 if you've been fighting alot they take alot fo damage and you fall to the floor dead -_-...

It would be nice if say a fully charged attack REAL up close would go through a character reduceing Ki and health and knock them backwards... This would make blocking a melee attack with a beam alot more tactical instead of just killing yourself and enemy at the same time...

 

[just1question]

its just that if u are a ssj goku with like 4 mil pl, and u tele with a kameha, u gota get ur ass pretty far away not to kill urself..

 

[MajinDruu]

Maby Beams could just be made to not explode unless they hit the side arena or are click exploded , you could even have a little symbol of some sort to tell you when your beam comes in contact with someone and when to explode it. That would be kind of cool.

 

[Gogeta91]

MAybe it could be made so everyones own explosions wont hurt them or low charged beams close the the enemy blow through them instead of explding but do less damage and i man everyones so goku wontbe too imbalanced

 

[Chakra-X]

In this game clled "gotcha force" gigantic beams similar to dragon ball Z's go through everything including players and scenery, so that could be a new style of beams. However, there are those who love exlposions, such as myself, and would like to see beams exploding. Plus if beams didn't hurt the shooter them selves, "beam spamming" would increase. So I propose that each unique beam is given 2 functions. Primary is how it is now, and secondary just goes through the person and they start spinning like they would after being meleed, getting damaged until they get out or push back the beam. Obviously, the secondary fire takes more ki, is faster, and can not be controlled.

 

[MajinDruu]

In this game clled "gotcha force" gigantic beams similar to dragon ball Z's go through everything including players and scenery, so that could be a new style of beams. However, there are those who love exlposions, such as myself, and would like to see beams exploding. Plus if beams didn't hurt the shooter them selves, "beam spamming" would increase. So I propose that each unique beam is given 2 functions. Primary is how it is now, and secondary just goes through the person and they start spinning like they would after being meleed, getting damaged until they get out or push back the beam. Obviously, the secondary fire takes more ki, is faster, and can not be controlled.

And then you'd be spammed while doing the secondry fire...
I'm not dis regarding the idea but I think it'd still be better if beams exploded on impact with the floor or when right clicked when secondry fired and were normal exploside beams when primary fired.

 

[Gogeta91]

what im saying is though that maybe just weak beams "below half of charge bar" go through them but this does less damage but is more accurate but it can be blocked

 

[evirustheslaye]

how about when the beam connects it pushes the target with it... doing vary small amounts of damage ... untell you release the mouse butten... then it explodes

 

[Orbit]

I just think this goes alittle off-topic but if you already mention it I suggested once something about beams. But as I said its off-topic sooooooooooooo
I dont think the damage you get should be reduced because, as mentioned before, it will encourage beamspam. A person who is swooping can do nothing against a Khh beam when fired 1 inch from him, so I think its only fair and true to reality (dbz reality) that the person firing the beam should get hurt just as bad.

 

[just1question]

well if u see in the show, or in budokai (this is what made me think of it), when goku does a tele kame, he is like 10 feet away and destroys whomever and goku is left harmless. im not saying for a blast that detonates in ur face to not hurt u, but it shouldnt do the same damage as it does to enemys. thats my only point.

 

[Optimus Prime]

well if u see in the show, or in budokai (this is what made me think of it), when goku does a tele kame, he is like 10 feet away and destroys whomever and goku is left harmless. im not saying for a blast that detonates in ur face to not hurt u, but it shouldnt do the same damage as it does to enemys. thats my only point.

How often did beams in the show exploded though? More often than not it went through the character vaporizing them, or pushed them away.

 

[DracoHeart]

Yes, the beam should be made in a way which WILL NOT EXPLODE in contact of a player. The beam will ONLY explode when it touches the ground or tree or a wall. When someone is shooting a beam I know the right click button detonates the beam immediately. That shouldn't happen. If someone right click, the beam should just continue charging forward until it hits a player or explodes in contact of a wall.

The beam must not explode immediately whenever it touches a player. Whenever a beam touches an enemy player, the beam should be pushing the enemy player backwards and the enemy player will go on a power struggle. If the enemy player didn't defence in the first place before the beam get him, he will start off the power struggle with a little less advantage. If the enemy player defend himself when the beam touches him, he will go on a power struggle but start of with a little more advantage than without defending. Once the enemy player loses the power struggle, the beam should go through the enemy and vapourize him instead of exploding. The beam should only explode when it touches the ground, mountain, trees, walls or buildings.

 

[imkongkong]

http://forum.esforces.com/showthread.php?t=16493

nuff said...

 

[MajinDruu]

so I think its only fair and true to reality (dbz reality) that the person firing the beam should get hurt just as bad.

Goku's warp Kamehameha on Cell...
Janemba's mouth Blast on Goku...
Countless Kamehameha's on Buu and even the one that was Buu against Buu...

In fact , I could probably list about 18 examples of beams being used at point blank...
So I think what ur sayings , kinda BS...
I'm with imkongkong on this one , people like the idea , its more DBZ like. If you don't like it , use right click and explode beams and kill yourself aswell , Kay?

even tho the right click things a bit off as has been said.