hmmmm yeah i see wat u mean Muffin Man, and thanks Eclipse
, i did a head ref for him, but errr.... i didnt really like the outcome, so i'll do it again if Almighty gir doesnt mind >_<, also im gonna do some weapon refs, and he has a jacket, which is supposed to be creame leather, with red stripes, however Almighty doesnt agree with me on the colour choice >_< so we'll work sumthing out, and if Enix reads this, he did quite a nice job CG'ing a timmy pic, so if he cud post it to show the colours you can all decide for yourselves :], anyway, the model is coming along brilliantly :] great work, cant wait to see the finished product ^_^.