Fun with android 18

[{SSJ}Master]

If you will excuse the pun in the name, i actually have a semi decent idea, i think.....

If an android character were to be added to esf at a later stage (which i think they should), they should make the character as unique as they were in the show. Hopefull by the time new characters are going to be added on, they should have smoothed out the imbalances in the game and made each character unique and special in their own way.

This is when androids come into play. If you remember in the shot androids have limitless energy, correct? They can be destroyed but their energy reserves will never be depleted. Now what i prepose (read on before thinking everything will be free ) is that maybe an andriod character be put into the game, but make their ki attacks drain no ki. So you will be able to fire off beams without having to regain your lost ki or be able to swoop as much as you want without fear of suddenly stopping. Things like teleporting would however take off energy, or else they would be unstoppable. As a drawback their transformations should only give them a slight boost in power, and the beams they have should have a very small blast radius otherwise the beam spamming would be intense.

I know there are alot of holes and flaws in the idea, but personally i think that with time these errors could be ironed out and a really unique and stable character could come out of this.

 

[Evil_Trunks]

I think it is a good idea but perhaps the androids should not be able to transform at all. They really didnt have a transformation in the show with the exception of android 17 but that was in GT.

This idea would represent the show, and I think it's a good idea. But I don't know how everyone else will react.

 

[Sonic the Vampire]

They don't need transformations. Start them both off at between 1 and 2 million PL, give them some kind of PL draining ability similar to but a little less effective than Cookie Attack, and you're set. I'm not sure how you would balance out the attacks if they were all like the spirit bomb though. You'd have to make those suckers weak, or long to charge up. They should have an advantage in the 1.2 melee system as well, since they have more stamina than the more "breathing" characters on the show, and it would balance out the PL gap later on.

 

[KamakaziChicken]

it's a decent idea,
just make it so they gain pl really slowly.
they can spam u to hell, but can u say ssj?
*Smack down! oooww yeah*

 

[SierraSonic]

I think that, androids 20 and 19, the ones with asorbing things on there hands, should be able to absord energy attacks, like instead of a Block Struggle they can absorb it, but you still have the option to blow up your beam. >

 

[Morrone]

They dont need transformations and if they get them it will make everything unbalanced. The fact that their ki does not drain is enuf of an advantage.

 

[WingZero]

I think its a great idea, but there shouldn't be transformations involved for them... And the gain PL slower is a great idea for them too... with all these idea's stuffed on too the one good idea it would turn out just fine i suppose.

 

[Madd Dog]

it would involve ALOT of balencing but it would also add ALOT of variety, if done right i would say HELL YEAH, and i will say HELL YEAH to the team to look into it after they redo the melee system. GO OF IR ITS AN OWNAGE IDEA

 

[preddie45]

awesome idea!!!!!!!!!! or what you could do is that it does waste power but that they can absorb the beams and regain power that way. except for 17 and 18l..i think which do as you said

 

[goku_2022]

thats a great idea man

 

[saiyanslayer]

hm, it's good, with all the things mentioned ET. I would play it

 

[Phazor]

I like the idea of the androids (17 & 18) haveing access to unlimited power......
But as this is a HUGE advantage I think they should have less HP than the others and their attacks took longer to charge/lsmaller "blast area"

 

[Brim]

Originally posted by Sierra Sonic
I think that, androids 20 and 19, the ones with asorbing things on there hands, should be able to absord energy attacks, like instead of a Block Struggle they can absorb it, but you still have the option to blow up your beam. >

This would be a cool idea if you made it into a struggle, say the person playing the android has to select the absorb attack, and if they want to absorb it, they have to be holding down primary fire. A struggle then ensues, much like the opposite of a BS. If the firing character succeeds in winning the person as the android blows up because they can't absorb that much. If they win, their ki is fully replenished. This attack would be balanced because not only do they get full ki, but the other person is completely drained making them helpless to attack.

 

[{SSJ}Master]

Lol, oops, forgot the part about power strugles, they should take energy up using that too, but it would be kinda unfair because they would start the battle off with a full gauge of ki

Im glad there is such a positive response to this, has it ever been suggested before. Maybe in like beta 3 it will be implemeted

 

[Sonic the Vampire]

Or we could turn it around. How about damage dealt to opponents raises the CF meter but not PL. When the CF meter is full, you can play a short "powering up" animation and raise yourself about 1.5x permanently. Just make the number of transformations infinite, but relying upon the CF meter being full in order to work. You can start them off at about 1,500,000 and they could work up from there. First trans: 2,250,000. Second trans: 3,375,000. Third trans: 5,062,500; etc. No PL gain inbetween, just a solid transformation every so often to show that they've gotten more powerul. This would at least keep them balanced out with the other characters, although they would start off more powerful and end up less powerful than most characters.

The only reason I suggest something like this is because the androids don't really get more powerful from fighting. The level system with multiple transformations would be unbalanced until everyone else got at least one more transformation, but it would be a representation of what they've learned from beating on people. It needs work, but it's another idea.

Note- They shouldn't get the option of using turbo. They should only be able to spend additional time charging existing beams.

 

[Sparr]

Ive got an idea. How about them not having a power level at all? I mean, after all, they have limitless power, and true, there is a degree of using PL to see who is stronger than who, but I think the androids should have the same power level(not sure what, you would have to experiment in-game) but that this level would be hidden, therefore no one would know, and your ki bar would simply have a infinity symbol or something. To counter-act this, the Andriods would be very Melee oriented, and I think should only have generic beam, but more gadget type attacks (such as 16). I also think they should have sort of instant kill moves, where if you outclass your oppenent enough in a fight (keeping a track of how often they hit you within the first couple of seconds of a fighting duel, something I assume would be more fast paced and up-close melee in later versions) that the andriod would just punch right through you, killing you instantly. Although anyone could have a 'Im too good for you' combo, I think the androids should use it out-right, just to give them a definative edge. Oh yes, and on teleporting. Since they would have infinate 'Ki' I say they can teleport however many times they want, BUT(this would go for all characters) you cant teleport more than...say...6 times in a row. Giving you plenty of room to get away, and not let you totally get on the other side of someone unfairly. After the 6 teleports, there would be a 2 second pause or so, before you could teleport again.

 

[Checkplease]

OK THIS IS WAYYYYYY OFF TOPIC BUT IT CAME UP AND I WANT AN OPINION. If youve seen the dbz episode THE UNLEASHING where gohan goes ssj2 youve obviusly seen the part where the cell jr's do the tribeam thing on him. Well this should be an extra trans for gohan remember right after taht hes DOES THIS HELLA COOL ATTACK Where beams come out from evey part of his body. this would be very cool but they should do like 15 hp damage each but they have to be heat seaking hehe. plz comment on this and tell me if its a good idea