ESF's Popularity

[009]

Im from the old esf 1.0 days
And i stopped played cause the crashing bug... now im back.. and the only new think in 1.2 from the 1.0 if you look 'overall' its the melee, the melee only got better, thats all.
well... about esf 1.3 its only some new playable char you have have.. and some transformations more... not the big deal.. evm already made that....
the only 'faqs' of 1.3 os that new maps 1 new play able char Ginyu. thats for sure..
But try not make it sound like 1.3 will have the entire Ginyu force and Android 18 and a playable char that is a timemachine.

No one said that ESF only are based on DBZ
it could be from
DB, DBZ and DBGT
Make all the chars will be pretty hard ?
they are many...


Still they forgot alot attacks more kind of attacks thats what i miss.....
How many of you know that Vegeta can make krillins disc... Vegeta made it at the first time he was on the earth....

makeing new maps to esf are not a big deal.. you can download alot of maps if you know where to look..
And alot of other models of you know where to look after it..

At least i hop they fix the mp3 player bug in 1.2.2

What will be in esf 1.3 ?
Well...
New maps
Ginyu a new playable char
Thats the 'faqs' we are sure about..

That's what we all cant wait for ?
OMG !!


And i think less ppl play is as joachim g said:
1) steam
2) the melee system now only involves arrow pressing so even a newb might be able to beat a *ahem* "pro"
3) they got over dbz
4) they found a better game (you wish)

Mostly i think it was like this
1) steam (you could not play on WON after the 21 sep 2003) (i know by half-life radio)
2) the melee system now only involves arrow pressing so even a newb might be able to beat a *ahem* "pro"
3) they got over dbz
4) they found a better game (you wish)
5) ns version 3.0 came out (alot did not play esf after ns came)

The show is still running here...
Ginyu saga... omfg boring..
so long to Trunks, cell, android or buu saga....

EVM did not helped ESF make more ppl play it i think... They only made it harder for esf to make something better.. hehe

by the way cool sig Arachka

The new melee system made more ppl play it i think... cuz in the old esf 1.0 my friends thought that it was borring you can only hit your enemy on 1 way in melee...

And the PL dont mean much in the game as it do in the films..
you know like.. haha my pl is on 2.000.000
you are only on 600.000 you cant do **** against me haha
-_-
umm... thats not the same in game.. a player with 600.000 can be just as good as a play with 2.000.000 pl
i think we all know that....

And alot of new players drop esf cuz they are getting meleed out from server... they cant to ****.. i know when i melee my friends out from my server -_-
And i offent see "ESFnoob has left the game" he did not had any chance... wont able to melee did never got the chance to fire a beam... And its not easy to protect a noob when you have 6 transformd krillins after the noob..
Game is to hard for newbies to learn.... make some ppl leave.. but i like ppl that dont give up at first play
Thats why i make a trannig server some times.. for new players to train i give good tips and so on.... if a pro play join my server.. well... if he dont listen to my orders on MY server i kick him.. DONT MELEE OR BEAM OTHERS !
its tranning not just kill so it get like all other servers...
If any 1 want to try it say it to me

Oh my god.... this post is huge.. better stop now....
Love ya all !
and you to ESFnoob
ESF RULES !

 

[owa]

Yeh I've heard this before, what happened to cause the downfall, so to speak?

I blame some decisions made inside the community.

 

[Snow]

Esf isnt nearly as popular as it used to be.

so so so true, i think it has been down hill sence 1.0 but thats just me.

 

[SSJ Shin Carl]

i heard in 1.0 there were like 100 servers up.

 

[DJ-Ready]

well... about esf 1.3 its only some new playable char you have have.. and some transformations more... not the big deal.. evm already made that....

you almost know nothing. there's way more then that.
Dont try to make 1.3 look like a hardcoded EVM with new classes.. 1.3 will be completely different then EVM

No one said that ESF only are based on DBZ

we said that esf is DBZ based mod countless times. it has nothing to do with DB, DBGT and not the Movies and never will.

the only new think in 1.2 from the 1.0 if you look 'overall' its the melee, the melee only got better, thats all.

there are way more things then just melee... some are visible some are not.
i.e. 1.2 has a complete new movement system and its way better then 1.0 imo

Game is to hard for newbies to learn.... make some ppl leave.. but i like ppl that dont give up at first play

its not that hard if you have played 1.0 before (or 1.1) and you have read the manual ... i hate it when ppl ask dumb questions that can easylie (sp?) be solved and/or avoided by reading the goddamn manual ...
But for sure im willed to help ppl (after they have read the manual lol) with their questions, most of them can be helped with a good explaination since the game isnt really that hard once you know how it works

cheers

Ready

 

[SSJ Shin Carl]

I'll laugh if 1.3 is a hardcoded evm.

 

[Hibiki]

a think an early rebirth might begin when EVM 2.0 comes out, that'll be why there has been some dowenfall 1.2 not compatible with eea and evm and they had fans that didnt come for 1.2

allow me to pull alitte thing out of my hat and say thats total bull

evm hads jack **** thats any good oh wow new transformations that take 20 hours to get to!

oh wow servers filled with people going "DONT FIGHT BACK OR BE BANNED"


yeah WOW thats sure a fun and rewarding experience :S

 

[Ravendust]

Nice to see you're spreading the word Ultimate Trunks, but why wasn't I invited to your party?

I think the fact 1.3 contains soooooooooooo much new material is really gonna get peoples attention again.

That's always good to hear, if people have strayed from v1.2 then v1.3 should reel them all back (as long as it gets released) ESF is still the number #1 DBZ mod :yes:

 

[009]

you almost know nothing. there's way more then that.
Dont try to make 1.3 look like a hardcoded EVM with new classes.. 1.3 will be completely different then EVM

I did not say that ESF and EVM was the same thing.

we said that esf is DBZ based mod countless times. it has nothing to do with DB, DBGT and not the Movies and never will.

I have not seen that any places on the esforces website. you could show me ?

there are way more things then just melee... some are visible some are not.
i.e. 1.2 has a complete new movement system and its way better then 1.0 imo

What did i said... 'overall' thats mean the melee, cuz its visible... :smile:

its not that hard if you have played 1.0 before (or 1.1)

If you played esf 1.0 or 1.1 you are not a newbie, when you start play esf 1.2.. did you know that ?

the game isnt really that hard once you know how it works

Yes when you have learned it :smile:

 

[Final Vegeta]

When 1.3 comes out, the majority will be HL2 addicts.

 

[Avenger]

Never! I'll keep playing ESF, at least now that I can get even MORE power! Just think.. Get 10 million pl as normal.. And you can get 4 times that just by transing a few times!

 

[Cold Steel]

The downfall is caused by the crashingbug. It's not fun to fight online and get disconnected every 15 minutes because the server crashed.

 

[Kami Sama]

People saying ESF isnt popular right obviously never played Alpha 2.0 :]

 

[Omni]

The downfall is caused by the crashingbug. It's not fun to fight online and get disconnected every 15 minutes because the server crashed.

Thats right.

There is only 1 server I play right now that does not seem to crash "ESF.world" but I get like 50-150 ping there. :shocked:

Still some servers are online 24/7 like Vossey's but nobody comes there and when you do go there it will crash within 5 minutes.
No idea why servers like that are still up.

Before 1.2.1 patch there were at least 4-5 server I could play with a decent ping.


imho the 1.2.1 patch should have never been released.

 

[imported_phrack50]

ESF has taken the Halflife engine and completely redesigned it.
You can't even recognize it as Halflife anymore. Its truely amazing. :]
I do believe its time to change it from Halflife Mod to Total Conversion. :laff:
Because there isn't a single thing left thats from Halflife.

Oh yea and Beta 1.3 will be the shiznit! :yes:

 

[Phatslugga]

Well, like i said before, the popularity is dying down becuase theres no where to paly the game right now. Of course there are going to be people that accuse the new melee system, even though that's completley wrong. The new melee system brought tons of new people in, and when there was a public poll the majority of the community loved the new melee. Not only that, but ESF is getting even more popularity on steam, but it really doesn't do any good if there are 1 or 2 servers to play on that don't crash. My server is one of them, unfortunatley, I don't feel like paying the extra money to make it an open one, even though I'm considering it for the next pay date. Anyone is welcome to play on my server (Rap private server), but it's usually locked. If you know the pass then you're in good luck, if not, then I'm sorry.

 

[DJ-Ready]

I have not seen that any places on the esforces website. you could show me ?

http://esforces.com/?p=about
" Earth's Special Forces, also known as ESF is a half-life modification based on the hit anime series, Dragonball Z. "
first sentence...
also we have said that ESF is DBZ only countless times on the forums

People saying ESF isnt popular right obviously never played Alpha 2.0

yeah back in the alpha times there were very less players compared to nowadays, but it was still fun

 

[Ness]

lol @ Hibiki, yeah its true. Theres too many n00b players that create a server, and expect everyone not to use melee. So when you totally whoop both their ass cheeks, they get touchy about it, and then ban or kick you. And with there being a lack of low ping servers around, its difficult to find a server with players that know what they are doing when they fight, and is also difficult to attain the status and figure that was possible to attain in previous versions, as more players had respect back then. Now its just flaming when you get your ass beatdown, or whining, instead of asking for tips on how to improve etc.
As for the EVM comments, i support these addons, but you must remember, they are built on AMX alone, and therefore cannot fully manipulate the ESF code freely like PcJoe and harSens can. Not only this, but the comment made by some guy earlier that DJ pointed out about people coming for ESF 1.2 for EVM, that is ****ing ****e. If you didnt know about ESF, how the **** would you know about EVM beforehand? No-one came to play ESF 1.2 for EVM, and even if they did, that wouldnt cause a decrease in interest for ESF 1.2. That would just cause disinterest for EVM. EVM is made for ESF, not ESF for EVM. If the ESF code for 1.2 is incompatible for EVM, thats EVM's problem to fiddle around with not ESF's. People began to play ESF during this 1.2 era, and heard and found out about EVM during their debut to this game.
I reckon the reason for lack of interest from veterans, is do to virtually a whole new melee system. Theres the double tap swwop, the advanced melee, and of course the fact that swooping seems slower paced, and melee now seems slower in general.