Counter-attacking

[Robby]

NO this is not about blocking or dodging

Anyway back on topic.I was just playin SSBM and i was Marth and something cought my eye that would really be cool if put in. The sword counter attack (Everyone has the ablity only Trunks uses his sword though)! heres an example. Im krillin and a regular old 1 mill goku comes up to me and tries to adv. melee me. I press down the counter attack button and for 2 seconds any attack that comes my way, that is melee only, ill give them either a karate chop or a swift kick in the head to send them away or down below.

Now lets say hes overpowered and has 3 million ki and i have 1 million ki. I press the counter attack key but OH NO!, he can go through it becasue he overpowers me by 2 million. so i get thrown away no matter what kind of melee he pulls on me.

So do you like this counter attack move idea?

 

[Fire Phoenix]

Sounds like it could be spammed. But this isn't the first thread that SSBM has been exampled for a suggestion

PS- Roy is better cuz he deals the exact same damage that would have been inflicted on him. Marth only deals 7 damage. (in other words.. ROY PWNS!

 

[Robby]

2 seconds or spamming isnt much and we could change it too

if your 1 millio behind him BOOM

 

[Spunky]

I think it's a pretty cool idea. And I can't see how people would spam it since it's a counter-attack, and could only be done if attacked.

 

[Fire Phoenix]

Well, how would you like if if you kept trying to attack me, and all i did was counter attack.

You swoop at me, i counter, you swoop i counter, you swoop i counter you swoop i counter. It's like throwing, there is no way around it. If i can counter you, shouldn't you be able to counter my counter? Ect. ect. ?

 

[Spunky]

Well, yeah, that would be a better idea. And yes, there is a way around throws. Hold down mouse1

 

[Fire Phoenix]

And yes, there is a way around throws. Hold down mouse1

oh really? So if they have a full ki bar, and you hold down mouse1, then they won't be able to throw you is that right? [/sarcasm]

No, the only possible way for you to counter a throw is if you are lucky enough for them to run out of ki. Holding down mouse1 just helps them burn more ki. nothing more, at the loss of your own ki as well.

 

[Robby]

then lets make suggestions to modify mine so we dont start a flame war alrgiht?

anyway heres the modifications so far
-If 1 million below attacker the coun ter-attack fails
-Countering will use 1/3 of your ki bar so you only have 3 chances.

 

[Fire Phoenix]

You guys actually get spyware? How do you manage..

don't forget you can charge your ki. so hell, why not have it use up all your ki, you could still spam it. Swoop, counter, charge repeat.

Chances are this suggestion won't make it, 2 there really isn't a way to make it un spam-able.

 

[Jumin]

isn't there already a counter-attack? i noticed that if i'm stronger than my opponent and he is prepunching me, as long as my ki bar is close to full, then my character will hit him away...

 

[Fire Phoenix]

No that's only if they run out of ki. Say you prepunch someone and you run out of ki, they will hit you back

 

[Sonic the Vampire]

Throws are already being changed so they'll be less ki reliant and not as "free" as far as getting an attack in without any chance of retribution. The way AM is set up you already get a chance to counter attack with your own set of attacks based on the amount of times you avoided being hit during your opponent's last volley. This is being changed around some, but I can't see the value in adding a free automatic counter attack system. Make it more difficult or make a downside to it.

 

[Shao]

No, the only possible way for you to counter a throw is if you are lucky enough for them to run out of ki. Holding down mouse1 just helps them burn more ki. nothing more, at the loss of your own ki as well.

Actually, holding down block while facing your opponent before they begin pre-punching you will stop them from being able to throw you.

 

[RavenTrunks]

OMR SPAM!

Anything is spammed, melee is spamed, flying is spammed.... jeeze, why does everyone say that on everything.....

Anyways, i think it should be les that 2 seconds, maybe like at the point of impact, or 1/2-1 second. that would solve the "Would be spammed" excuse.

 

[Orbit]

Maybe if you had to charge it.... Maybe.

flying is spammed

Who says that?

 

[Robby]

how in freakin hell could you charge a counter attack!? The how about it uses 1/2 ki bar? that'll work.

And of course flying is spammed... wake up :tired: you tired ppl and stop the ^^^^^^^^ spam

 

[~*Logan*~]

countering.....I like this idea. Would put a new spin on melee.

 

[Silent_Bob]

This idea could actually be quite good, if you could find a way of implementing this so people wouldn't just be able to cancel out melee attacks every time, I wholeheartedly support this idea.

 

[matej]

NO this is not about blocking or dodging

Anyway back on topic.I was just playin SSBM and i was Marth and something cought my eye that would really be cool if put in. The sword counter attack (Everyone has the ablity only Trunks uses his sword though)! heres an example. Im krillin and a regular old 1 mill goku comes up to me and tries to adv. melee me. I press down the counter attack button and for 2 seconds any attack that comes my way, that is melee only, ill give them either a karate chop or a swift kick in the head to send them away or down below.

Now lets say hes overpowered and has 3 million ki and i have 1 million ki. I press the counter attack key but OH NO!, he can go through it becasue he overpowers me by 2 million. so i get thrown away no matter what kind of melee he pulls on me.

So do you like this counter attack move idea?

in budokai 3 is good counter
in esf :when enemy hits you with right and you dodgeand give counter hit