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Someone posted this on a forum i goto and it's about the WTC, it has a lot of info on why that it wasn't terrorsist that did it. http://serendipity.magnet.ch/wtc.html

But the thing that got me is this animated .gif of the pentagon impact

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in the first frame u can see billowing smoke before an impact, and towards the right u can see the tailfin of a plane to small to be a 747... more probably a military jet fighter. The white smoke is most probably cause by a missle, this .gif has got me at least convinced that the Pentagon thing was staged. read the site, it has a LOT of info and a lot of it is right
 
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but i think it was expected, a sort of reason to test weapons on actual humans.

if you watch the REAL news (not cnn and nbc) you will know that the u.s is just shooting at anyone and everthing over there (even if their not taliban)

half the muslim religion has claimed war on america

this is just like desert storm(which caused this) except they got
new weapons to try

george bush is just some hick idiot who pushes buttons for the shadow government (Plutocracy) and he claims its justice?

how does one pyschotic coalition cause 100,000s of muslims to be destroyed.

congress is SICK

i can understand being pissed off because innocent american were killed. you can only speculate

all i want to know is where the plane wreckage is at the pentagon. the damage looks a little small to be a plane crash.
 
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They kind alaready cleared away the wreckage and began repairs awhile ago....

Its basic human instict to find a conspiracy..
Give it up..
That entire page is just the speculation of people who weren't there and cannot really know what happened.

People have thought that their government was out to get them decades ago.....that idea is nothing new.

If half the muslim religion has declared war on the States, why is the US-enstated government working so well?

And if you want to believe that the government is out to get us and just using us an guinea pigs, really.....would you expect the president to know about half of it?

The wreckage looked perfectly fine considering the size of the building and the size of the planes that impacted..
Really.....speculation is not what is needed.
 
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I'm gonna make this quick (as possible). This guys arguments are utter bull. Not to mention a disgrace to everyone who died that day.

In view of the $30 billion given annually to the FBI, the CIA and other U.S. "intelligence" agencies, why were these agencies completely unaware (or so they say) of this conspiracy before they saw its results on CNN? And why has this (apparent) incompetence been rewarded with yet more billions?
Americans throw money at problems. The CIA had it's license to kill revoked, and budgets are earmarked for certain projects only, there is only a small overseas spy effort.

The four AA and UA jets took off with an average occupancy rate of 27%
Yeah, that pretty much lines up with sagging ticket sales and a poor market for business air commutes.

Why would hijackers intending to crash planes into the WTC hijack jets taking off from Boston rather than from someplace closer such as JFK Airport in New York?
Boston was picked specifically because it's security was a joke.

Why would hijackers intending to crash a plane into the Pentagon hijack a jet from Dulles Airport near Washington DC and allow it to fly for an hour away from its target before turning around and flying another hour back to it (knowing that interception by military jets during this time would in normal circumstances have been very likely)?
It takes time to take a plane with boxcutters and gumption. Come on now, this guy uses this as an example of why it was a CIA taskforce . . . then again, it's obvious who's theory is full of holes.

AA Flight 77 (the jet which allegedly crashed into the Pentagon) was allegedly hijacked at about 9 a.m., at about the same time as the Twin Tower impacts, and its change of course back toward Washington, or its transponder having been turned off, would have been known to flight controllers, who were aware of the impacts; why, then, were U.S. Air Force jets not scrambled to intercept AA Flight 77, when there were U.S. Air Force jets at seven locations normally ready to take off at ten minutes' notice?
Maybe because it's a new attack no one dreamed possible. The military has never responded to hijacking by shooting the plane down. :rolleyes:

Where are the black boxes (the flight data recorders and the cockpit voice recorders) from all four jets? These black boxes are designed to survive any crash. Have they been examined by experts from the National Transportation Safety Board, the agency which normally investigates airplane crashes? If not, why not?

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In particular, what is on the FDR and the CVR from UA Flight 93, the jet which crashed in Pennsylvania? Were there any recorded radio transmissions from this jet just prior to its crash, and if so what were they? Why, exactly, did this jet crash? Was it shot down?
Further proof that this dumb ass is an arab trying to turn America in on itself. The boxes were found . . . other wise how would we know about the *** rugby player leading the smackdown on the CIA oper . . . errr . . . terrorists. :S Of course, evidence (which he claims proves it's all lies!) that does not fit the model should be dropped. The plane in PA crashed because CIA commandos can't handle the *** rugby player. :rolleyes:

Workers at Indian Lake Marina [six miles from the place where UA Flight 93 crashed] said that they saw a cloud of confetti-like debris descend on the lake and nearby farms minutes after hearing the explosion that signaled the crash [or the attack on the jet] at 10:06 a.m. Tuesday." (Pittsburg Post Gazette, Sept. 13, 2001) If this plane was not shot down, but rather remained intact until hitting the ground, how could this debris travel the six miles from the crash site to Indian Lake in minutes when there was only a 10 mph wind blowing? (For wind-borne debris to travel six miles in, say, six minutes requires a 60 mph wind.)
*groans

More FDR/CVR fun. The terrorists (or was it the CIA commandos) said they had a bomb (If they were CIA, I would think that the pilots would ask why they were being betrayed), It's possible that they did. Or that the *** rugby player messed up with the flaps and landing gear . . . wich would leave debris.

Were the conversations between the pilots of the other three hijacked planes and air traffic controllers recorded? If so, what did those pilots say? Were those recordings siezed by the FBI? Were (alleged) transcripts given by the FBI to the mainstream media? Were those transcripts fabricated to provide false evidence in support of the "Arab hijackers" story?
Circular logic hurts my head. If, if, if. Shut up, you taliban need to watch more TV. Using this technique I could "prove" that Elvis was killed by Buddah.

If no commercial TV cameras were trained on the North Tower at the time of impact, what was the source of the transmission of the North Tower impact which George W. Bush says he saw before he went into the classroom in Florida? Why did he do nothing (except listen to a little girl's story about her pet goat) for thirty minutes after he was informed that the second jet hit the WTC? Did Bush have prior knowledge of the WTC attack?
There are so such things as sattelites with spy camera's . . . of course Afgan's living in Yemen think that they are American lies. LIES!

Considering that all persons on board all four planes died, how did the FBI come up so quickly with a list of names of the alleged nineteen Arab hijackers — including aliases used by fourteen of them, in some cases seven aliases (see the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, 2001-09-27)?
Oh yeah, 90% of the time, eyewitness accounts get the names of those people that are total strangers sitting next to them (and if they were CIA commandos, they probably weren't talkative), I know I always ask the islamic fundamentalists ASL, just in case. Ever hear of ticket sales? Good. Credit Cards? Yes, you can shut up now.

Why did the South Tower collapse first, 47 minutes after it was hit, rather than the North Tower (which was hit first and collapsed 1 hour and 44 minutes after being hit), even though the fire in the North Tower (the alleged cause of the collapse) was more intense?
I love how this smack ass doubles back on himself. He goes through a big thing explaining how the north towers fuel was wasted due to a bad approach (which CIA commandos are apparently poor at :\) The south tower got hit harder, right in the middle, the "alleged" weakspot.

Would jet fuel burning in an enclosed space (with little oxygen available for combustion) actually produce temperatures high enough (1538°C, i.e. 2800°F) to melt massive steel beams (and all the steel beams, since steel conducts heat efficiently) enclosed in concrete in just 47 minutes? If so, wouldn't the Twin Towers have buckled and bent, and toppled over onto the surrounding buildings in the Lower Manhattan financial district, rather than collapsing neatly upon themselves in the manner of a controlled demolition?
Ahh, the jewel in his crown of stupidity. Go look up the definition of enclosed space slappeh. The impact opened up several floors and blew out all the windows on that floor. The heat and smoke rose and was trapped by the buildings insulation at the top. Meanwhile cold air was constantly sucked in from all the windows and the 90 or so storeys that weren't on fire.

Were the Twin Towers re-engineered in the mid-1990s to make possible a collapse-on-demand if that were judged necessary? Was FEMA aware of this? Do the blueprints of the Twin Towers reveal any evidence of this?
No but NYC's city hall certainly is aware. Arab nationals wouldn't know that though. Oh well. In the US you need permits for everything in construction. It's a money thing, it gets checked. We are, after all, capatalist whores.

Why were such huge quantities of ash and dust produced? How could fire convert concrete into dust? Has the ash been chemically analysed to determine what it really is and how it might have been produced??
Fire hot enough to burn steel will take the water out of concrete. Making it brittle and very likely to become what it became. Come on now. I know they make buildings out of clay where you live so I'll clue you in. When buliders make stuff here, it leaves tons of dust . . . for little buldings. Blow them up with a plane full of CIA commandos that can't fly (and get smacked down by *** rugby players), then you will see ash and dust.

Is it not the case that the Twin Towers collapsed, not because of airliner impacts and fires, but because they were expertly demolished (even though we do not yet know exactly how this was accomplished)?
There ya go! Perhaps you need to re-evaluate your definition of "enclosed space" and "physics" and you will arive at the only answer that fits the data.

Who stood to benefit from the complete destruction of the Twin Towers?
Osama Beenbragginthatheblewthemupinanotherofhiswonderousmessagesfromallah. Of course he denies every attack is his responcibility. He has been quoted as saying that "we make the call to our muslim brothers, what they do is up to them". If he admits that the blood is on his hands, he is violating the tenets of the Quo'ran(sp?) and is no longer striving for the jihad. Interesting that the word jihad is to struggle for godliness, (a paralell in christianity is for christians to live by Christ's example.) not to wage war in the name of a peacefull religeon. The enemy is Ignorance not Islam folks.

Why were no aircraft fragments, identifiable as coming from a Boeing 757, recovered from the Pentagon crash site?
17,000 lbs of jet fuel is a LOT of liquid kick-ass kiddies. Not much survives that. Of course there is not alot of the pentagon left either. Unless that got hit with a "black technology" deathray too :rolleyes: (I am not making this crap up, this idiot beleives this.)

Why were no remains of the approximately sixty passengers and crew on the jet which allegedly hit the Pentagon returned to relatives for burial?
Because not all of the bodies were IDed. America disapproves of mass graves.

In September the Securities and Exchange Commission initiated an inquiry to establish who benefited from the unusually high numbers of put options purchased prior to September 11 for shares in companies whose stock prices subsequently plummeted, on the supposition that whoever was behind the hijacking was also behind most of the purchases of these put options. Why has this inquiry stalled? Why have those who benefited from the purchases of these put options not been identified (or at least, not publicly)
Err, no one benefitted dumbass. Only the big overseas banks that held the money for Osama Beenhidin'.

Is it not the case that this atrocity was planned and carried out by elements at high levels of command in the U.S. Air Force, the CIA, the Justice Department and FEMA (possibly with the involvement of well-placed civilians outside the government), acting under orders from, or with the approval of, high officials within the U.S. Administration, and that those same elements are now directing a propaganda campaign against the American people to justify a war of aggression in Asia and the Middle East aimed at controlling the oil and mineral wealth of those regions
That is one huge ass conspiracy, I don't think it can exsist. Jeez, no american is that cutthroat about money.


In short, back up your theory with some real data analysis, not what you clipped to make your own story look good.
 
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In addition, the pentagon footage is fake. No way in hell did a French news agency get security photos from the pentagon. The plane augered in on it's side, the plane would have missed if not for "winging in". The pentagon is a big bulding, but it's no trade center, the buildings wrekage would have burned up with a full tank. Not to mention he doesn't show where the buildings debris ended up. In the "ground zero" court yard. Center of the Pentagon.
 
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my r braIn has been discombobulated
 
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i phear ur ability to type some 100+ lines of pure useless crapola
 
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No . . . the post count proves thats your job :p

Spreading the truth and taking healthy dumps on lies is completely useful. :D Down with ignorance.
 
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/wants to see that gif....

/can't find it...
 
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yeah!!!


DOWN WITH THE IGNORANT!! DOWN WITH CORUPPTION!! DOWN WITH HIS PANTS!!!! SEIG ZEON!!! ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!!!


(btw The military has never responded to hijacking by shooting the plane down. has got to be the best thing ive heard all week :D )


also that nazi american flag thing is so stupid it made me laugh when i saw it :p i mean come on people
 
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speaking of animated pic


that one on there sucks i mean u cant even see what the hell is going on


(btw seig is spelled with an s :p no z )
 

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