11/09 - 09/11

[TwisteR]

Some people died in some buildings. So what? It was most likely a setup by the american government to have a reason to kill arabs and take their oil...

gtfo and dome come back, thx.

The world has a 6,7 billion human population or so. In that event only a few thousand died. The numbers were probably back to normal in a day or two... sadly...

Yeah, because the amount of lives lost doesnt quite stack up to any significant amount compared to the planets population, its not that big of a deal. Idiot.

 

[KYnetiK]

" Y'know those billions and billions of dollars we spend on more efficient killing tools? Couldnt we feasibly use this technology to, I dont know, shoot food at hungry people?

Theres a guy that needs a banana! WHOOOSH! The Stealth Banana...Smart Fruit! "

 

[Brosiris]

" Y'know those billions and billions of dollars we spend on more efficient killing tools? Couldnt we feasibly use this technology to, I dont know, shoot food at hungry people?

Theres a guy that needs a banana! WHOOOSH! The Stealth Banana...Smart Fruit! "

That'd be crazy talk. Just crazy talk. Unfortunately, as soon as one country puts down it's super power status to work on something actually beneficial with the world, like ending world hunger or something of the sort. One other country will say "uh uh! not me! hahahaha nuke the bastards"

And with as many enemies as America has, it's not wise for us to throw our weapons away.

In the mean time:

Why are people so shocked by that event? Some people died in some buildings. So what?

So you wouldn't mind if I killed your entire family, friends, girlfriend, what-have-you would you? Because, it's probably a smaller number than the people who died on September 11th, 2001. And hey, it's just a statistic, it'll all be back to normal in a day right?

 

[Synth]

I think what's worse than not caring or being casual about death... is people who try to spread conspiracy for profit.

When you need to understand things... some Ivy-league crackpot with nothing better to do... has already wrote a book for you to develop your opinion from.

And... for those of you who hate to read... there's always The Daily Show or The Colbert Report, so we can learn to laugh at our problems while we're ignoring them, instead of being scared.

I'M NOT SCARED, I'M LAUGHING... THANKS JON STEWART AND STEPHEN COLBERT!

 

[Almighty_Gir]

thousands of people die every day?

sure... do thousands of people die every day against their will, in an act of terrorism?

no, they don't. learn the difference between dying of natural causes, and dying because some idiot wants you dead for political leverage.

 

[Prozac]

thousands of people die every day?

sure... do thousands of people die every day against their will, in an act of terrorism?

no, they don't. learn the difference between dying of natural causes, and dying because some idiot wants you dead for political leverage.

actually... worldwide terrorism does get thousands of people killed daily.

 

[Almighty_Gir]

actually... worldwide terrorism does get thousands of people killed daily.

more than likely, and it's a sad, sad thing.

but do you hear about two airoplanes flying into a building, daily?

no.

those "thousands" of people who die, daily, are kept to groups of 10-100 people in one area. yes, it's a tragedy, and yes, it sucks. but they aren't AS major an event.


the next thing you know, people will be telling us "who cares about 11/11? it's just a war... nothing special".
people need to remember, and reflect on the horrors of events like this, to help remind them why terrorism is bad, why people fight in wars to protect their country, and why some people shouldn't be given power.

 

[Chakra-X]

I was sitting here looking at Jesus's post, trying to think "wait...What the hell happens in November 2009?!?"

Then I stopped being an uncultured American.

 

[Almighty_Gir]

I was sitting here looking at Jesus's post, trying to think "wait...What the hell happens in November 2009?!?"

Then I stopped being an uncultured American.

you'd be surprised how many of todays youth don't know what it is =/

 

[En'me]

A really fun discussion. I agree with Grega. And I also think that Bush is as stupid as they say. He would not have a problem killing thousands of people, so he can stay the president and not get killed.

Oh, and, there were airplanes crashing into the buildings? Am I ignorent? Yes, but please, what's a RADAR? Oh, and, America having the greatest militarry power and considering it's sheer size couldn't detect two ****ing AIRPLANES?

I'm saying this on a bluff. I have abso-****ing-lutely NO idea about militarry. But if they can't detect two airplanes incoming from a different country, well yeah, than humanity can suck ****s and use sperm to fill our guns.

What I'm trying to say, is, that, I belive that Bush killed them. We've already seen some people on this very forum not giving a crap about people far away from them... and.... being the president of the United States and keeping that position means writting some papers to bomb 1000's of people which would be replaced by other thousand's of people in mere days?


Hell yeah, even I would do it. Though I wouldn't, really.

P.S.: And as far as saving the world... What?
Look at it this way:

You take a couple of strings, and you tie them together in order to get something out of it. Once you've seen the beneficial effects that you and others have received, you decide to tie more strings. And other people do the same, and to top that, they make it more complicated it in more original ways.

2.000.000 years of human history, tying different strings together in different, unique ways. How the hell do you plan on untying that?


Oh, right, wait, what about 2012?

 

[shadowcast]

well I'm going to share my 2 cents, sure 9 11 was a tragedy but well people die every day, its not like the US hasn't sent other people to their deaths for nothing (Vietnam for example).

same thing goes for the Christian church where they sent thousands of soldiers to murder and slaughter muslims for the simple reason to "release" the holy land, because of these kind of acts against muslims they even declared Jihad, the bottom line is, when you mess with someone elses way of life you tend to get backfired. A soldier or a terrorist on the end of the day are the same, terrorists fight for what they believe is right (not that i agree with them or am a supporter) but you have to understand, during all these years other nations and other cultures are trying to impose on them their way of life.
I really do feel sympathetic to the relatives of the 9/11 victims, but as harsh as it sounds they are not the only ones,

I live in a country that was subjected to genocide, luckily we managed to defend ourselves, and i can tell you even though i live here...after 10 years i am sick and tired of the promotion of this war, hatred in these parts exists even today,

 

[Almighty_Gir]

the thing i'm trying to say, is that 9/11 shouldn't be seen as a memorial to that specific event, but to terrorist acts in general.

Highlighter, what you said made no sense, at all... what's 2012 got to do with anything?

 

[En'me]

Yes, I know, nothing made sense. It shouldn't make sense to anyone. I was just ranting and being cinical and sarcastical and truthfull, still expressing my view however refraining from being pessemistic even though my message might of looked like that.

Oh, and, yeah, never mind about 2012.

I love you Jesus!

 

[Eon]

A really fun discussion. I agree with Grega. And I also think that Bush is as stupid as they say. He would not have a problem killing thousands of people, so he can stay the president and not get killed.

Oh, and, there were airplanes crashing into the buildings? Am I ignorent? Yes, but please, what's a RADAR? Oh, and, America having the greatest militarry power and considering it's sheer size couldn't detect two ****ing AIRPLANES?

I'm saying this on a bluff. I have abso-****ing-lutely NO idea about militarry. But if they can't detect two airplanes incoming from a different country, well yeah, than humanity can suck ****s and use sperm to fill our guns.

What I'm trying to say, is, that, I belive that Bush killed them. We've already seen some people on this very forum not giving a crap about people far away from them... and.... being the president of the United States and keeping that position means writting some papers to bomb 1000's of people which would be replaced by other thousand's of people in mere days?


Hell yeah, even I would do it. Though I wouldn't, really.

P.S.: And as far as saving the world... What?
Look at it this way:

You take a couple of strings, and you tie them together in order to get something out of it. Once you've seen the beneficial effects that you and others have received, you decide to tie more strings. And other people do the same, and to top that, they make it more complicated it in more original ways.

2.000.000 years of human history, tying different strings together in different, unique ways. How the hell do you plan on untying that?


Oh, right, wait, what about 2012?

Bush is too much of a tard to pull off a stupid conspiracy. I am also pretty sure we would've ended up in Iraq whether or not the attacks happened.

and radar? are you serious, man? from another country? What the hell are you smoking cause I want some too.

There were two PASSENGER aircraft. Two. DOMESTIC. PASSENGER. aircraft. The moment anyone would have noticed the planes were not only off their course, but manifesting into a threat, by the time we would've had any jets launched to take them down they still probably would've slammed into those buildings.


I want this magical radar that tells you when a plane is about to kamikaze something. That would be pretty awesome.

 

[TheStranger]

Here's my 2 cents and then some..


The true reason 9/11 is so pivotal to our society/humanity is the fact that it was the catalyst to begin the outright blatant push of the "world", and not just the "country" into a new Age or new type of society.

Amongst all the people who rank 9/11 as a day of importance, not everyone believes or knows this reason to be true. Many people were horrified by the event and while in a state of shock...accepted the heavily implied bullcrap fed to them through main stream media.

As some truth leaked out after going to Iraq the tool known as mainstream media has molded it with lies to form dead-end, hamster-wheel arguable options for the unaware to choose from. Strategically using this generated controversial argument amongst ourselves to keep us distracted/controlled and if the some new input to the argument some how started leading people to the truth they simply would wave a hand and destroy the image of a person seeing a bigger plot by branding them, a nutty conspiracy theorist.

Let me clarify that everyone who openly looks for the truth and doesn't discriminate information isn't a conspiracy theorist and isn't a nut. Though to anyone unaware or hasn't truly considered what's possible, their outlandish suggestions may throw someone off... and even amongst truth seekers there's motive generated disinformation to decipher.

Anyhow, 9/11 wasn't the first motive driven, preplanned event to take place against us(classified as sheeple) and it clearly isn't going to be the last from what I've seen then and what I see now. At least now, more people are willing to look into it, because it's far more obvious.

 

[Spunky]

or threaten to nuke an entire country.

Japan would disagree.

While I kind of understand where a lot of the foreign members of this community are coming from, I can't agree with them. I think it's downright shameful to say that the lives of thousands of innocent people are meaningless. I realize that some of your countries are so ****ed up that 9/11 probably looks like a picnic, but that's not how we see it. By our standards, not many major tragic events have ever taken place on American soil, so when something does happen, it hits us pretty hard, and our media likes to make sure the rest of the world knows it. Most of us have moved on. We remember and always will, but it's not at the forefront of our minds anymore.

This thread pissed me off a bit earlier. Yes, the world is ****ed up. America is nowhere near as ignorant as you all think. You're as ignorant as you claim we are if you believe that. We read and watch the news too, and not just our own. 9/11 is important because it's one of the most tragic events to ever take place on our soil. By your standards, it might be a picnic, but by our standards, the effects were detrimental, and so tragic that many of the NYPD and FDNY rescue workers who were there that day are still undergoing treatment for PTSD (see Rescue Me, a great show about the FDNY).

As for all of the conspiracy theories in circulation, most of them are incredibly ridiculous. There's one in particular which claims our government blew up the building. This one is so stupid that I've decided to never speak to anyone who believes it out of the sheer principle that they are idiots. Burning jet fuel (you know, from the big ****ing planes that crashed into the buildings) weakened the structure which eventually gave way. There have been countless documentaries debunking all of these ridiculous conspiracy theories with small-scale reenactments. The towers were actually designed to withstand planes crashing into them (oh the irony ). They hadn't taken burning jet fuel into account.