o look anudda vegeta hater... brute ray gun aint really cheating, i mean the only other way to do it is to expierence extreme sorrow so its actually a much safer way to do it.Originally posted by Hibiki
vegeta is weaker than cheese he cant even go ssj2 with out someones help he needs babidi to use magic on him and he cant go ssj 3... and the only way he can go ssj4 is by cheating and useing the brute ray