what is USSJ ?

[)V(ajin Tomas]

I've bee wondering about this...;/

 

[Majin_You]

It is simply a form that is very physically strong. The physical prowess for the saiyan that achieves USSJ is pretty much unparalleled(sp?) with one exception; speed. The USSJ is very bulky, muscularly speaking, so it is harder for him/her to move.

Thats the jest of it. It can be considered a form on its own, I think, since it would have to share some qualities of SSJ1 and 2 in order for it to be a stop in between them.

 

[dudeman]

an ussj is the same as a ssj2 but by the big muscles, trunks\vegeta (wich became ussj) where so big that they where very slow, so that was a weakness..

later, gohan became ussj too without losing speed, and then they called that: ssj2

 

[Naz]

no

it's more like this

let's say a ssj has a strength of 5000 and a speed of 5000

and a ssj2 has a strength of 10000 and a speed of 10000

and a ussj would have a strength of 7500 and a speed of 2500
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super sayian(level 1)
ultra super sayian(level 1)
super sayian (level 2)

it's like when u have a car, let's say a ferari f40, and u sacrefise weight to make it faste, it's still a ferari f40 but with different stats, but when u go ssj2 it will be a ferari f50.
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ssj: "gold" hair, a bit more bulky

when u go ussj, ur high gets VERY spikey and u won't have pupils, and u will be a LOT bulkyer.

ssj2: less bulky again, but stronger then a ussj, and about two times as fast as a ssj.
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needed for ssj transformation: power and emotion

ussj: only power is needed

ssj2: power and emotion

now u can c why it isn't a ssj2, yet.
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ussj is just a huge ssj , it's also called:

Ultimate Super Saiyan (Super Saiyan stage 3)

while assj is stage 2; they DO ascend, but it's a ssj form and not a ssj2 form

grtz Naz

 

[Master Dorn]

nononono

an advanced ssj1 is the state of a complete ssj. goku trained the assj with his son gohan in the room of t. and s. he said that a normal ssj costs a lot of energy. they trained it as their normal state so it doesnt cost any energy anymore. thats the advanced super saiya-jin.
ussj is the level between ssj 1 and ssj 2.

first time ssj1 (when goku beats freezer, costs a lot of energy)=
----------------------> strength
----------------------> speed

advanced ssj1=
--------------------------------> strength
--------------------------------> speed

ussj=
----------------------------------------------------------------------> strength
--------------------------------> speed

ssj2=
----------------------------------------------------------------------> strength
----------------------------------------------------------------------> speed

perfect cell=
-----------------------------------------------------> strength
-----------------------------------------------------> speed

the ussj has the same strength as the ssj2, because trunks could hurt cell as ussj. but after cell said, u will not defeat me with this, he showed him that his speed is too slow.

perfect cell(after his suicide explosion)=
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------> strength
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------> speed

now you think: why could gohan defeat him then??? his father goku supported him and rembered that cell has killed him and a lot of people. and because gohan has secret power, which only shows when he is angry, he powered up as ssj2. but he wasnt as strong as p.cell. the z team helped him. especially vegeta with his final flash. cell had to block this attack. this was the moment, that cell doesnt concentrated on the powerstruggle with gohan, and this is the death of cell. gohan blasted him away.

 

[Wanzer General]

i agree with dorn cuase it is the same strength as ssj2 but the speed of a slug pretty much nothing more then a boost of ssj1 thats my opinion(like it has any value;/ )

 

[Naz]

first of all, for ssj2 is a higher level needed

secon a ussj has WAY less strength then a ssj2

 

[Engar]

Remember, when Cell fought against USSJ Trunks he told him that he did have the power to defeat Cell, but he didn't have the speed to hit him. Not that I think Cell was at his strongest then, but I do think that USSJ Trunks was at least close to the power of SSJ2.

 

[Lt.Zack]

I like when Vegeta snaped after Cell put a hole thru Trunks's chest

 

[[ESF]nighthawk]

Goku didn't say SSJ costs a lot of energy...he said they waste a lot of energy transforming to SSJ, so to conserve that energy they should remain in SSJ form. Showing that they can stay in SSJ form without losing form shows full mastery of the SSJ 1 form.

Now then, USSJ is just another form of SSJ 1. It's not as strong as SSJ2. How you ask?? Sure when Trunks went USSJ he was as strong as Cell at that point. However, when Cell turned into Super Cell, he was far more stronger than Trunks and all the Z fighters except for Gohan cause both had ascended the level of SSJ1 into the next level, SSJ2.

Therefore, it is my conclusion that USSJ is not as strong as SSJ2. It is just another manipulative form of SSJ1 but shows that that person has achieved total mastery of that form.

 

[DiebytheSword]

A third theory

 

[Naz]

for a surpassing a ssj stage emotion IS needed, there is no emotion needed for ussj and it's a stage before ssj2 , so ussj just CANT be a ssj2 form,.

about the strength put a same (base)level ussj and ssj2 against each other, only based on strength, a ssj2 will win with his hands on his back

 

[)V(ajin Tomas]

I think I get it now...;/ no... not really

 

[Hibiki]

just think of ussj as being there.... dont try to think about if its ssj2 or 1 or any of that crap..


just remeber its there... its buff and slow... and is only used 3 times

 

[)V(ajin Tomas]

Ahhh I'll just look at it like that

 

[[ESF]nighthawk]

Theory?? I'm posting the facts