What I think Attacks and Transformations should be. My List.

What do you think about my more reasonable ideas for techniques and trans?

  • Yeah, Good Idea, Sounds true to the Show.

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  • Ok Idea, But I'd like to see made up moves like Kameh-Torpedos

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  • Not a good Idea, I dislike it

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suggested what? the rapid fire attack or the attack list?
I suggested that like a bazillion times
then why do u only have 69ish posts? :p:S
 
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I said I appreciated the effort or didnt I? Ok so maybe there arent as many models, but its still a lot of work to make 4 transforms per char. Even with small modifications to each its still 36 different people. The idea is great. Im just saying that the team has probably already passed the planning stage. I hope that some of the ideas are used though. Would be a pity because theyre good. And 27 transform animations and sounds for each? Sure you could repeat some, but its still plenty of work.
And if its not a lot of work all the better for us, well have to wait less for those extra transforms. All right im sorry if I have offended either xirus or prince. I did say I wasnt serious.
 
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Originally posted by alejandroc
Nice work. You really put your back into it. Well, more like your fingertips but still is alot of writing. I hope the esf team shows at least a little of attention to this one. Though we will probably be seein 3 transforms per character not 4 or 5 like you suggest. Not that it wouldnt be excellent, but you are demanding a lot.:D
When you refer to the characters in the series pushing their power up(when you refer to mid/full power) that is exactly what turbo is. Attacks and melee go stronger but it drains ki as you go.
I think you are asking for too many models. I dont know maybe I misunderstood. Maybe you werent referring to the turbo. More or less something like the trunks in mid point 1/2 in the show that overinflates himself with energy his body cant take. Be sure to include a speed penalty if this is the case. As you probably remember his speed went down heavily and thats why he lost.
Yeah you sorta miss-understood what I had said.
But you got most of it right. There wont need to be alot of models
because as you already know ESF is still in Beta 1. So of course their
will have to be more models. Im not really demanding them to add
a thousand sepurate models.

But say for example when I went on with Vegeta.

He goes from normal to:

SSJ
Then USSJ, Which is temporary everytime you use it. Cause of
course. USSJ will really knock someone back at melee. So anyone
playing as vegeta will probably go on and try to hit someone in the
back really hard.

And besides it'd be a great idea and excuse to probably give him
the Chou Final Flash. Thats what I call it. But when he first used it
on Cell it just seemed like he put every drop of energy he had in
his body to throw it at him. Which is why Final Flash looked weaker
when he through it at a Cell Jr. and it was easily deflected.

And basically who ever is playing as vegeta in USSJ stage will have
to try to
gain enough power level for SSJ2.

And the reason for Mid Power/Full Power is because power up
doesn't exactly do that it just gives you a small boost (it aint so small when your
around 100,000,000PL and it skips to 200,000,000 though). But
Take the battle between Gokou vs. Cell. How many times did they
power up? And Cell against gohan was also holding back. He went
to his maximum power just to try and hit gohan but gohan was still
too strong.

So that just says that Cell at Perfect form could've been 5x strong
at the time but like 10x stronger for powering up. Well its hard to
explain. But I just dont beleive that the Power Up key is really
doing so well at melee if its not with you when you swoop.

But I remember gokou had to also power up like 100x to fight
frieza.

EDIT:

It didn't take me that long to type that the ideas kept coming
as I went. It was kinda hard keeping track of all of them though
I hate thinking too much. And the reason I suggested this is
because I totally disagree with Gokou having kame-torpedos. Its
clear that the mod is heading to a road with less ideas simply
because your avoiding things from the movies and/or GT. I probably
know the purpose for it. But sometimes you gotta make acceptions.
People say no Movie/GT Stuff but Harsens really just said no
Movie/GT Characters.

I think the mod should slightly follow the series atleast.
People always wondered how the hell is the game going to be
balanced with Frieza and Majin Buu? I just gave you the best logical
one there is.

Im not saying my idea is better than everyone elses. I just think
its more true to the show and atleast 2 of the ideas I gave for
any of those characters should be put in. I prefer Frieza and Gokou
at the moment. Especially since Frieza lacks beams. I gave hime
more useful things.
 
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Whoa.... Battle of the long posts.... Yea, Hibiki this is the Suggestions area... If the team didn't want idea's they wouldn't have made the forums for it.... Just my opinion!
 
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Originally posted by [email protected]!D3R
Whoa.... Battle of the long posts.... Yea, Hibiki this is the Suggestions area... If the team didn't want idea's they wouldn't have made the forums for it.... Just my opinion!
Tru Dat
 
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Ok I got you wrong, just wanted to know what you mean. You say this powerup modes are temporary, how much would they last? Your life maybe? When you respawn its gone?
 
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No the power up modes are not temporary. But any beams you
try to use should take more Ki.

And its not every character that will have a power up mode.
I only put it on some of them. And beleive it or not, This may
finally end the whole beam+melee whore argueing. Cause in the
end. Neither is strong, and neither is weak. And everybody will be
fast enough to evade the attacks by then. And if they still *****
about either one of those two weapons. Then they can just stop
playing ESF or join a beam/melee only server.
 
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theres a difference between an attack list and a suggestion
 
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Good but why does ssj2 gohan get increased melee?
he never gets increased melee against cell.
Its good, but vegeta as ssj2 full power should have the Chou FF as well.
Its stronger but mainly quicker loading and takes less ki, so he would be able to ps. Also Vegeta and goku ssj2 should get somekind of supergeneric beam.
but its really long, and good. but long...
 
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Originally posted by Hibiki
theres a difference between an attack list and a suggestion
Ehh, This is a balancing suggestion incase you didn't notice :p
And Scooterman. SSJ2 Gohan had increase EVERYTHING during his
battle with Cell when he went SSJ2
 
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well, from what i know it looks right(yet i dont know much ^_-
i think its ok.
 
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Indeed, but physical attack would have been the least of them.
You never heard anyone say, whoa his melee is beyond compare.
Or When SSJ3 goku fought Kid buu "Your melee is powerful, but my sons was incredible when he went ssj2 that time..."
So if he gets it vegeta should get it more, cause piccollo even says vegeta is much stronger than gohan was.
 
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Scooterman because basically... SSJ2 Gohan is extremely strong and fast. He punched Cell so hard he had cell puke out Android 18. And in Movie 9 he kills everyone of bojacks henchmen with one hit, Theres this one dude he cuts in half by just kicking him, and he hits bojack once in the stomache and his fist goes through
not to mension he played kick ball with all of the Cell Jr's as well.
 
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Well our 16 gives a point...
SSJ2 Gohan really kicked asses...
It has to be the strongest Gohan version in the game,
because as SSJ2 he was stronger than as Adult Gohan....
By the way...which one was Mystic Gohan?
It was some kind of Adult Gohan, wasn't it?
Sorry n00b question...
 
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Yea well. I'll reply to that but stop going off topic! :p
Mystic Gohan is Adult Gohan, After Receiving that Boost in
Strength from Rou Dai Kaoshin (The Old Kai)
 
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aHHH!!! Who voted and brought back this dead thread?

**Puts a metal pan over his head**

Lets see if this zombie thread can get to my brains now!!!

**thinks for a second**

Erm... closing will do just fine...
 

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