vegeta thoughts

[VuLLs]

this thread is for vegeta users who would like to make suggestions on him... like whats your dream vegeta for the 1.3 patch (make stuff up and perhaps it could be put in!),


- um is it just me or is vegeta's hair still have black spots when in ssj form?... could be fixed a little.

- also wtf is up with vegeta's ass... omfg he has a big ass crack... LOL could use smoothing... or perhaps put a tail on him.

- oh ya speaking of tails, ape form for vegeta!! i cant stress this enough (i know i've mentioned it alot before)... omfg it would own.

vegeta in form1 throws a ball in the sky and says something like, "i learned this from your father, kakarot!" then goes ape form... he cant move or attack, nor be attacked by melee... he would only be a 30 foot (big) ape that shoots a mouth blast ki attack... that takes some time to fully charge.

it would be like a spirit bomb in power and blockage.
this would reflect gokus spirit bomb in form 1.

he can die but when he is in ape form lets say he gets 1000 life points... so ki attacks will kill him eventually, but he dies faster if some one cuts his tail off with a disc... he will revert back to vegeta with 10 life points... rather it be krillian, frieza, or cells disc.

vegeta's ape form model would be the one with the stretchible costume (his current model). easy to remodel...

just think this feature would be a big must in 1.3... vegeta would own and it would be fun to see a big ape.

admins could limit the amount of apes in server; like everyone gets a chance to go ape... after some ones ape runs out they have to wait for it to recharge... so that there wont be multiple apes in one server *abusing... like mp_apelimit 1 ? err actually you could just use mp_classlimit 1 so there is only one vegeta in the server.

either way its a good and fair.

so you've heard my dream vegeta... whats yours?

 

[Rocky]

I'm quite sure the team has decided not to include Oozaru, The version that u've described would be way too powerful, nobody would be able to kill it.

I think Vegeta is pretty powerful as he is, I wouldn't change anything about him except maybe reduce the amount of Ki his moves cost.

 

[VuLLs]

ooooh ya his ki amount is quite burnible... but so is any ones that charge up... its for blocking reasons duh.

and ape would not be to strong... 2 people blasting it would kill it. or one person teleporting from behind and cutting his tail off before he blast would stop it. its just like being able to teleport kick goku when he summons the spirit bomb. its not undefeatible dude. plus its blockible..

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what the heck is oozaru?

plus i'll demute you in this thread. but get out of hand and i'll remute u and report you as you have had a warning already by admins.

also change that "pwning vulls since..." under your name title bar. its showing your immatureness and will not be tolerated.

 

[Rocky]

You said describe your dream Vegeta thats all i did, don't mock my dream version.

Oozaru is the ape form for Saiyans, do a search in this forum and you'll see that there is a number of threads for Oozaru and despite the overwhelming popularity of the idea (I think it would be cool too) the team has decided not to include it.

You said it would have 1000hp, thats pretty unbeatable, as for cutting off its tail, you said you need a disc, only 3 characters have discs, if you're not one of those characters you can't cut the tail, also using discs isn't the easiest thing in the world to do especially against a giant angry moving ape. If for some reason they decided to include Oozaru they would need to alter it a fair bit so that it just doesn't own the map, maybe a time limit?

 

[VuLLs]

from where did you hear they said no they will not include monkey form? give me a link...

did u not read my post? i said the monkey would not be able to move he is basically a sitting duck like goku... he goes ape to shoot mouthblast. like goku sits to summon spirit bomb. so he wouldnt move u could just teleport behind and point blank cut his tail off... before you go ape u do it to where u wanna aim the blast radius. just like u do for spirit bomb.

 

[Rocky]

just seach under suggestions for Oozaru there's been a number of threads on it. Sonic said that Oozaru was available in bfp and it wasn't good there so the team weren't going to include it here.

 

[DracoHeart]

One thing, Vegeta's Galic gun animation. Its wrong so can't it be fixed? He is supposed to curl his leg a little and both of his hand palm to each other on his right side, not like kamehameha, like kamehameha but above his neck with legs curled.

 

[VuLLs]

well that mod is different... and this mod does have character class limits... so only one vegeta per server. and if they wanted multiple vegetas and only one ape they could add a command like mp_apelimit 1 or 2...

i just think my monkey mod idea ownz those other threads. seeing how mine does not move and grab or punch people. its fair as crap. u can just get two people to blast it to kill or for fun purposes cut his tail off. it wouldnt eat fps or nothing.

 

[DracoHeart]

The current galic gun is wrong. it should be something like this. The animations.

Galic Gun:
Japanese Name: Gyariku Ho
First Used By: Vegeta
Description: This is one of Vegeta's Trademark attacks. It is first used in the Saiyan Saga against Goku. The energy is gathered behind the user with the backs of the hands together then the hands are brought forward with the palms outward.

 

[VuLLs]

One thing, Vegeta's Galic gun animation. Its wrong so can't it be fixed? He is supposed to curl his leg a little and both of his hand palm to each other on his right side, not like kamehameha, like kamehameha but above his neck with legs curled.

ya vegeta's animation for gallitgun is quite like that of kamaha and his flying animation is kinda wrong too... like his leg and arm just look like he is escorting a girl to the prom or something... he should have a more umph to his flying position, in my opinion...
seeing how he is the prince of all saiyans!

 

[Rocky]

Yeah another thing about the gallic gun is that stupid glowing thing that appears around you, not only does it just scream "I'm over here shoot me from behind!" but it obstructs the view from infront, too many times have I been prematurely hit with a beam because I didn't see my oponent launch his first. Perhaps widen it out a bit so you can see through? or make it smaller so that it doesn't obstruct anything.

 

[VuLLs]

ya even in first person view u cant see through some of the ki beams... like frieza death ball... its like impossible to aim with a big white thing in your face.. very annoying getting kicked and beamed first and crap.


hopefully they will fix that.

 

[Sicron]

the team set a poly limit for esf-models, which is 1500 if u want to make a 30ft oozaru, it would require ALOT more polies unless u want to make it looks really crappy, and..did u guys ever think of lag? new huge (lag)maps needed so it can walk without getting stuck somewhere...the idea is nice, but it can lag...alot

 

[$ooicide]

I Agree that the oozaru thing wud be cool but way too big. I think it would be way cooler to have those little cell baby things tho. OOH and add the time chamber to the maps. Plus trunks cud use his sword to cut the tail and it would also so make sense that if vegeta can go oozaru his tail should always be there and if its cut b4 he transforms he cant transform.
Im not sure if this is correct but couldnt goku use his kameha wave to destroy the moon? but that would be way too weird to do. ill just shut up now

 

[DaRkOwNs]

yeah no oozarus it would make the game severely boring in a matter of seconds

also, vegeta is my favorite character to play with and what i think could use some working on is the way you use the renzoku energy dan(or just renzoku to you guys)
you shouldnt have to charge it and it should go straght for the enemy it should be like a superfast secondary ki blast(the fast balls) and yeah the gallit gun aura really needs work and his normal and ssj models could use some work his hair just bothers me theres no hair strands its just like a single spike sticking up

 

[Ravendust]

My dream vegeta would use less ki while swooping, all trans', renzoku would fly straight and would be more damaging, and seeing as they're all getting added/fixed all getting fixed in 1.3 I have nothing new to add, except i'd like to see Galit gun's beam about 3 times as thick, and final flash's beam about 6 times as thick, powerful moves should look powerful imo, and Galit Gun looks too thin even on full power.

 

[Rocky]

OOH and add the time chamber to the maps. Plus trunks cud use his sword to cut the tail and it would also so make sense that if vegeta can go oozaru his tail should always be there and if its cut b4 he transforms he cant transform.
Im not sure if this is correct but couldnt goku use his kameha wave to destroy the moon? but that would be way too weird to do. ill just shut up now

They already have the hyperbaulic time chamber, the map is called esf_rosat which expanded is Room Of Spirit and Time, I actually think they got it wrong, the room of spirit and time is the room Goku uses as a child to travel back in time to speak with Master Mutayito. (spelling?)
There won't be a Oozaru but if there was I'm sure it would be possible to destroy the moon projector technique.

 

[DracoHeart]

I don't really care about the others, but this is the main point that must be fix. The galic gun animation. Its suggestion critical.

 

[VuLLs]

no no no u guys didnt read carefully enough of my post...

the ape cant move! its like goku when summoning spirit bomb (basically a sitting duck for an attack) this would allow you to teleport behind it and cut its tail off if say your krillian or frieza or cell.

the ape doesnt have to be big big... just half the size of ktn_arena like thats not that big. plus it wouldnt lag or take up alot of data, just turn detail models off if you got crappy comp.
or gl_texturemode filtering...

also, the stoping the ape transformation by destroying the moon ball... u dont need to... just teleport into them and kick like u would to a goku when they summoning a spirit bomb...

and your trunks cutting tail off theory is nice... like to do it he would teleport and hold right click to do the kick but in 1.3 instead of kicking he uses his sword to knock ya back or "cut" thus adding to the 20% gibs of the sword attack feature?

 

[Zeonix]

Im against this idea.

First of all, if it cant move, you destroy the essence of the Oozaru. Instead of a terrifying ape, it is a statue that shoots lasers and waves its arms around.
The Oozaru has 1000 hp? Are you crazy? It'd take forever to kill him (unless it was 20 people vs the ape).
Unless the ape's tail is perfectly still, it would be too difficult to cut his tail off with a disc.

There are too many flaws with this idea.