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Ok the 1.3 transformations will look like this:

Goku - SSJ1 / SSJ2 / SSJ3
Gohan - SSJ1 / SSJ2
Vegeta - SSJ1 / SSJ2[Majin]
Trunks - SSJ1 / USSJ[Beefy]
Frieza - 2 / 3 / 4
Buu - Skinny / Super / Kid
Cell - 2[Imperfect] / 3[Perfect]
Piccolo - No turban & cape
Krillin - Mystic[powerup]
Android 18 - Buddy Android 17
Captain Ginyu - Buddies Guldo / Burter / Recoome

That means that Piccolo, Android 18 and Krillin only have 1 transformations and other have 3 like Goku.... thats not very balanced and I think its getting fast boring to play them like Krillin today.

So I have some suggestions about new transformations:

Goku - SSJ1 / SSJ2 / SSJ3
Gohan - SSJ1 / SSJ2 / Mystic (3. or first transformation)
Vegeta - SSJ1 / SSJ2[Majin] / Fusion Vegetto / SSJ Vegetto
(Goku appears and both do the fusion)
Trunks - Normal Form with Jacket - 2nd Form without Jacket / SSJ1 / USSJ[Beefy]
Frieza - 2 / 3 / 4
Buu - Skinny / Super / Kid
Cell - 2[Imperfect] / 3[Perfect] / Buddy Cell jr.
Piccolo - No turban & cape / Fusion with Nail / Fusion with Kame
Krillin - Buddy Yamcha / Mystic[powerup] / Mystic with Buddy
Android 18 - Normal Form with Jacket / 2nd Form without Jacket / Buddy Android 16 / Buddy Android 17
Captain Ginyu - Buddies Guldo / Burter / Recoome / Jiece

I think the idea that Cell should get a buddy Cell Jr. is a great one ^^

Also I have some suggestion for new characters:

Tien - Normal Form with his green robe - 2nd Form Buddy Chaozu / White Shirt / No Shirt + Buddy
Goten - SSJ + Buddy Trunks / Fusion Gotenks / SSJ Gotenks / SSJ 3 Gotenks
Dabura - Buddy Babidi / No Cape / No Cape + Buddy

What do you think??
 
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Vegeta - SSJ1 / SSJ2[Majin] / Fusion Vegetto / SSJ Vegetto
(Goku appears and both do the fusion)
Dabura - Buddy Babidi / No Cape / No Cape + Buddy
O_O
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you know Vegeta rocks. But making him into Vegito is gonna ruin the game.

And even if Dabura makes it in, he wont need Babidi, sure that goes with the story, but if i understand buddy transform, its like the buddy fights with you, (mods correct me if I'm wrong), besides, if Vegeta becomes Vegito, then if we even consider balance + anime-likeness then we get unbalance and a whole new anime which i am sure will p!ss off noobs who come to the game for the anime.

the Goten Trunks thing was cool, btw. Wouldnt mind seeing that in action. It could be like select either Goten or Trunks and the other appears as your buddy.:smile:
 

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1.I think that Vegeta (yes i know it wont be in game) should have Ussj. I see it in two ways:
Vegeta - SSJ1 /Ussj / SSJ2[Majin]
Vegeta - SSJ1 /Ussj / Ssj 1 (majin) / SSJ2[Majin]

2.Then Trunks also shuld have:
Trunks - SSJ1 / USSJ / USSj 2 (more pomped sayian)

3.Gohan was Mystic in Show ,so why he wont be here??

4.Its cool idea to add Dabura - he would have transformation like this f.ex:
Normal (white aura) / Power up (red aura) / Power up (red aura + lightnings)

5. Vegetto isnt good idea to be in game , because hes to damn powerfull

6. Gotenks / Tien are cool ideas , and we can only wait when project Tien will finish. Trans 4 Gotenks

Goten / Ssj Goten / + buddy Trunks (in ssj)/ Gotenks ssj / Gotenks Ssj 3
Tien / Power up / Buddy Chaozu / buddy Yamsha

7. Piccolo shoud be a bit faster in first form. And he shud have trans like this:
normal / fuse with Nail / Fuse with Kami / Power up (room oF T&S)
 
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Vegetto shouldn?t be so strong.
What about that: he is time limited like gotenks in the series and after some minutes he turns back to vegeta normal form.
Same goes for gotenks.

Agree with the dabura thing. But buddy babidi could be like the guldo buddy from ginyu with some telekinesis powers or something like that.

Will the buddys fight like bots or how does this thing work??
 
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look at it this way.
A player gets Vegito.
He uses some attack at full power.
Then everyone on the map dies.
And he and his team gets a few points.

So... people would take vegeta and not worry about dying.
Its like this: 1 death but 4 kills so thats total of 4-1 points = 3 points.
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SonOdin said:
Ok the 1.3 transformations will look like this:

Goku - SSJ1 / SSJ2 / SSJ3
Gohan - SSJ1 / SSJ2
Vegeta - SSJ1 / SSJ2[Majin]
Trunks - SSJ1 / USSJ[Beefy]
Frieza - 2 / 3 / 4
Buu - Skinny / Super / Kid
Cell - 2[Imperfect] / 3[Perfect]
Piccolo - No turban & cape
Krillin - Mystic[powerup]
Android 18 - Buddy Android 17
Captain Ginyu - Buddies Guldo / Burter / Recoome

That means that Piccolo, Android 18 and Krillin only have 1 transformations and other have 3 like Goku.... thats not very balanced and I think its getting fast boring to play them like Krillin today.

So I have some suggestions about new transformations:

Goku - SSJ1 / SSJ2 / SSJ3
Gohan - SSJ1 / SSJ2 / Mystic (3. or first transformation)
Vegeta - SSJ1 / SSJ2[Majin] / Fusion Vegetto / SSJ Vegetto That would be stupid, that means all up he gets more transformations then Goku plus how stong to make Vegetto? Much of this has already been disscussed in other threads if you have a little look on how hard it is to actually find a good way to implement him
(Goku appears and both do the fusion)
Trunks - Normal Form with Jacket - 2nd Form without Jacket / SSJ1 / USSJ[Beefy] - The 2 non ssj forms are unessacary
Frieza - 2 / 3 / 4
Buu - Skinny / Super / Kid
Cell - 2[Imperfect] / 3[Perfect] / Buddy Cell jr. Cell's range of attacks are already an advantage over most other classes, but giving him Cell Jr I don't think would actually work well given the fact that the buddy system in most cases is ment to cater for those classes that have no trans at all or very little in ways of trasformations.
Piccolo - No turban & cape / Fusion with Nail / Fusion with Kame
Krillin - Buddy Yamcha / Mystic[powerup] / Mystic with Buddy I myself, given the time that it takes Krillin to transform into mystic could see working, however it means more work for the modeling team and the community is still not done with Tien yet (I'm not implyying that Yamcha is going to become a community project, it's just that the team themselves I can't see adding Yamcha for various reasons).
Android 18 - Normal Form with Jacket / 2nd Form without Jacket / Buddy Android 16 / Buddy Android 17
Captain Ginyu - Buddies Guldo / Burter / Recoome / Jiece

I think the idea that Cell should get a buddy Cell Jr. is a great one ^^

Also I have some suggestion for new characters:

Tien - Normal Form with his green robe - 2nd Form Buddy Chaozu / White Shirt / No Shirt + Buddy
Goten - SSJ + Buddy Trunks / Fusion Gotenks / SSJ Gotenks / SSJ 3 Gotenks
I myself suggested that Gotenks be implemented through the buddy system a lnog while back. Supposedly the community will work on Gotenks after They have finished working on Tien.
Dabura - Buddy Babidi / No Cape / No Cape + Buddy
It's been suggested before, however I myself wouldn't mind seeing Dabura added
What do you think??
3.Gohan was Mystic in Show ,so why he wont be here??
I don't think it would make so much sense to see a kid transform into a adult before your eyes.
 
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I think overlord sayid it all evry thing you sayid overpower some caracher and some other caracter get even more over power
 
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Goku - SSJ1 / SSJ2 / SSJ3
Gohan - SSJ1 / SSJ2 / Mystic (3. or first transformation) - What Overlord said
Vegeta - SSJ1 / SSJ2[Majin] / Fusion Vegetto / SSJ Vegetto - That's retarded, Vegeta isn't Vegeto.
(Goku appears and both do the fusion)
Trunks - Normal Form with Jacket - 2nd Form without Jacket / SSJ1 / USSJ[Beefy]
Frieza - 2 / 3 / 4 / Full Power
Buu - Skinny / Super / Kid
Cell - 2[Imperfect] / 3[Perfect] / Buddy Cell jr. - How would Cell Jr. be a Buddy? He's weaker then Cell!!!
Piccolo - No turban & cape / Fusion with Nail / Fusion with Kame - :yes:
Krillin - Buddy Yamcha / Mystic[powerup] / Mystic with Buddy - :yes:
Android 18 - Normal Form with Jacket / 2nd Form without Jacket / Buddy - :shocked:
Android 16 / Buddy Android 17 - How could 17 be a buddy if 16 is stronger?
Captain Ginyu - Buddies Guldo / Burter / Recoome / Jiece - It should go backwards, Captain Ginyu is the strongest.

I think the idea that Cell should get a buddy Cell Jr. is a great one ^^ - I don't...

Also I have some suggestion for new characters:

Tien - Normal Form with his green robe - 2nd Form Buddy Chaozu / White Shirt / No Shirt + Buddy - Meh...
Goten - SSJ + Buddy Trunks / Fusion Gotenks / SSJ Gotenks / SSJ 3 Gotenks - Meh...
Dabura - Buddy Babidi / No Cape / No Cape + Buddy - Babidi Is not a fighter to let you know.

What do you think??
Some of the stuff you said were rediculous.
 
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I kinda agree with what the others said. Just adding that the it isnt unbalanced if Gokus transformations arnt a big boost while Krillins transformation is.

As for the Krillin in the current version sux thing.

Hes the fastest character in the game after he transforms and his HP is second biggest. Not to mention scatering beam is a deadly attack.
 
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Isnt Buu stronger than Vegetto in the series?
As I said you don?t have to make him such strong. Make him a little stronger than SSJ 3 Goku...

I have heared that Vegetto belongs more to Vegeta than Goku, and Gogeta more to Goku but Gogeta is movie stuff and the esf team want no movie stuff in the game...

He is a very uniqe char from dbz, so I dont see why he shouldt be in the game.


And yes Ginyu is the strongest but you play him ^^ , so its the right direction.

With Trunks you are right. Just give him SSJ 2.

The Cell Jr. Buddy is weaker than Cell- right, but together they are stronger than only Perfect Cell... so it is his 3rd transformation.

Was Android 16 realy stronger than Android 17?? I don?t remeber ^^

And yes Babidi isnt a fighter but as I said he can get some telekinesis powers... just an idea.
 
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Kurilin it's the Nr.1 Guy in esf 1.2x he got speed power life whit a speed of 350
Buu it's Nr.2 guy in esf 1.2x he got speeed power life whit a speed of 320 and a life of 180
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Isnt Buu stronger than Vegetto in the series?
As I said you don?t have to make him such strong. Make him a little stronger than SSJ 3 Goku...

I have heared that Vegetto belongs more to Vegeta than Goku, and Gogeta more to Goku but Gogeta is movie stuff and the esf team want no movie stuff in the game...

He is a very uniqe char from dbz, so I dont see why he shouldt be in the game.


And yes Ginyu is the strongest but you play him ^^ , so its the right direction.

With Trunks you are right. Just give him SSJ 2.

The Cell Jr. Buddy is weaker than Cell- right, but together they are stronger than only Perfect Cell... so it is his 3rd transformation.

Was Android 16 realy stronger than Android 17?? I don?t remeber ^^

And yes Babidi isnt a fighter but as I said he can get some telekinesis powers... just an idea.
1.No Buu was not stronger then Vegetto, as for Vegetto first is Tien and Gotenks and there is no Vegetto
2.Yes movie caracter will not be addit, but this is way there model's to do them if gotenks project it's done you can chose to play as Vegetto or Gogita
3.Trunks never rech SSJ 2(SSJ 2 was use in EVM to add more transfomrations)
4.As for Cell it's one of the stronges Guy in the game a uniq caracter if you add a buddy to him you will unbalace him
5. Yes Android 16 was stronger then A17
6.Babidi will not work maybe just to make some majin influent to make yor caracter attack your friends
 
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So I have some suggestions about new transformations:

Goku - SSJ1 / SSJ2 / SSJ3
Gohan - SSJ1 / SSJ2 / Mystic (3. or first transformation)
Vegeta - SSJ1 / SSJ2[Majin] / Fusion Vegetto / SSJ Vegetto
(Goku appears and both do the fusion)
Trunks - Normal Form with Jacket - 2nd Form without Jacket / SSJ1 / USSJ[Beefy]
Frieza - 2 / 3 / 4
Buu - Skinny / Super / Kid
Cell - 2[Imperfect] / 3[Perfect] / Buddy Cell jr.
Piccolo - No turban & cape / Fusion with Nail / Fusion with Kame
Krillin - Buddy Yamcha / Mystic[powerup] / Mystic with Buddy
Android 18 - Normal Form with Jacket / 2nd Form without Jacket / Buddy Android 16 / Buddy Android 17
Captain Ginyu - Buddies Guldo / Burter / Recoome / Jiece

I think the idea that Cell should get a buddy Cell Jr. is a great one ^^

Also I have some suggestion for new characters:

Tien - Normal Form with his green robe - 2nd Form Buddy Chaozu / White Shirt / No Shirt + Buddy
Goten - SSJ + Buddy Trunks / Fusion Gotenks / SSJ Gotenks / SSJ 3 Gotenks
Dabura - Buddy Babidi / No Cape / No Cape + Buddy

What do you think??[/quote]

Well lets see: Yamcha hes useless after the Sayan Saga...Babidi ... well if i kick babidi il throw him on another map...ANd this goes the same for Chaozu
And Why in the hell should cell have a cell jr partner i mean in his last form he can beat a lot of guys and cell jr got his ass wooped by Gohan!!!
 
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Cloud[ESW] said:
Well lets see: Yamcha hes useless after the Sayan Saga...Babidi ... well if i kick babidi il throw him on another map...ANd this goes the same for Chaozu
And Why in the hell should cell have a cell jr partner i mean in his last form he can beat a lot of guys and cell jr got his ass wooped by Gohan!!!
Cell got beaten by Gohan aswell.
 
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Cloud nothing against your idea. But just throwing transformations in there will make characters work to similar.

Look at it this way. Goku and Gohan have the same number of transformations. Si tehy would have to me made soi that they transform at similar PLs with similar PL boosts.

But when Gohan has less transformations. That can change. And Gohan can have a fast first transformation and than hed have to work longer to reach his second. But his second form would get a boost thats bigg enough to keep up with Gokus final form.

That way you can keep it balanced and still have each character be best for a certain gameplay.
 
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More transformations

* Goku - SSJ1 / SSJ2 / SSJ3
* Gohan - SSJ1 / SSJ2
* Vegeta - SSJ1 / SSJ2[Majin]
* Trunks - SSJ1 / USSJ[Beefy]
* Frieza - 2 / 3 / 4
* Buu - Skinny / Super / Kid
* Cell - 2[Imperfect] / 3[Perfect]
* Piccolo - No turban & cape
* Krillin - Mystic[powerup]
* Android 18 - Buddy Android 17
* Captain Ginyu - Buddies Guldo / Burter / Recoome[/b]
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Assorted Already Suggested Ideas
This is just a general bullet list of ideas that have been suggested tons and tons of times before.

* More transformations (ssj2, kid buu, perfect cell, ect)
* Fusion
* More characters (Dabura, tien, yamcha, android 18, cooler, ect)
3) - Before posting the first thing that jumps in to your mind, read the stickies. I'm sure the team appreciates the effort and enthusiasm, but they're there for a reason
 
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It's already been said transformations will work differently in 1.3. SSJ3, for instance, is going to be very draining. "Lots of power, but ya have to use it quickly".
 
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You don't know that maybe SSJ 3 Will be like this
SSJ3 will have smaller speed SSJ2 biger speed
SSJ3 life will be smaler then SSJ2 Life
and SSJ3 will drain the same stamina as SSJ 2
and This is verry balance since SSJ 3 will be as good as a Vegeta SSJ2
 
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Why does SSJ3 has less life than SSJ2?
And SSJ3 should be as fast or faster than SSJ2 after all is a higher form.
And he should drain more stamina than SSJ2 not same amount.
 
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You don't know that maybe SSJ 3 Will be like this
SSJ3 will have smaller speed SSJ2 biger speed
SSJ3 life will be smaler then SSJ2 Life
and SSJ3 will drain the same stamina as SSJ 2
and This is verry balance since SSJ 3 will be as good as a Vegeta SSJ2
If SSJ3 will have smaller speed and smaller life then SSJ2 then there will be no need to transform. And it won't be balanced ,it will be very unbalanced.
SSJ3 is stronger than SSJ2.
 
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If SSJ3 will have smaller speed and smaller life then SSJ2 then there will be no need to transform. And it won't be balanced ,it will be very unbalanced.
SSJ3 is stronger than SSJ2.
Yes in the Show but this is a Game and it suld be balance
since evryone will have only 2 trans SSJ 3 for goku suld be weak
 

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