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It won't, it'll be annexed by Albania.I hope Tibet gains its freedom. I also hope Kosovo remains free.
It won't, it'll be annexed by Albania.I hope Tibet gains its freedom. I also hope Kosovo remains free.
Can the sarcasm, you knew what I meant. That Kosovo will be annexed by Albania.The day Tibet is annexed by Albania is the day I say Hellrider was right.
Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080316/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_china;_ylt=AmG5_4a8vLBez1mY3GMO5Ums0NUEWASHINGTON - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice called on China to exercise restraint in dealing with protests in Tibet as the State Department issued a travel alert Saturday for Americans in the region.
"I am deeply saddened to learn that the turmoil that erupted (Friday) in Lhasa following what began as peaceful protests has resulted in the loss of lives, and I am concerned that the violence appears to be continuing," Rice said. "I also am concerned by reports of a sharply increased police and military presence in and around Lhasa. We call on the Chinese government to exercise restraint in dealing with these protests, and we strongly urge all sides to refrain from violence."
She also called for China to release monks and others jailed for protesting.
Her statement was issued after Chinese soldiers on foot and in armored carriers swarmed Tibet's capital of Lhasa on Saturday, enforcing a strict curfew a day after protesters burned shops and cars to vent their anger against Chinese rule. In another western city, police clashed with hundreds of Buddhist monks leading a sympathy demonstration.
China's official Xinhua News Agency reported at least 10 civilians were burned to death on Friday. The Dalai Lama's exiled Tibetan government in India said Chinese authorities killed at least 30 Tibetans and possibly as many as 100. The figures could not be independently verified.
Police manned checkpoints and armored personnel carriers rattled on mostly empty streets in Lhasa as people stayed indoors under a curfew, witnesses said. The show of force imposed a tense quiet.
"American citizens in Tibet and especially in Lhasa are advised to avoid areas where demonstrations are taking place," said the State Department travel alert issued along with Rice's statement. "U.S. citizens in Lhasa should seek safe havens in hotels and other buildings and remain indoors to the extent possible. Americans are advised to defer travel to Tibet at this time."
The alert said the U.S. Embassy in China "has received reports from American citizens in the city who report gunfire, rioting and other violence" and that assistance to Americans may be limited because U.S. consular personnel "have not yet been granted access" to the region.
"President Bush has consistently encouraged the Chinese government to engage in substantive dialogue with the Dalai Lama directly and through his representatives so that long-standing issues with regard to Tibet may be resolved," Rice said. "We urge China to respect the fundamental and universally recognized right of all of its citizens to peacefully express their political and religious views, and we call on China to release monks and others who have been detained solely for the peaceful expression of their views. We also urge China to address policies in Tibetan areas that have created tensions due to their impact on Tibetan religion, culture and livelihoods."
I like how part of the reason Beijing was chosen was so that they might change their ways so as not to look bad under the international attention brought by the games. Not bloody likely.I would love for the Bejing Olympics to get boycotted by some countries and powerful individuals because of China's oppression of Tibet.
I know it's not gonna happen, but I'd like to see it nonetheless.
This.Do you mind elaborating as to why Tibet doesn't deserve independence?
Throughout its long history, Tibet at times has governed itself as an independent state and at other times has had various levels of association with China. Regardless of Chinaâs involvement in Tibetan affairs, Tibetâs internal government was for centuries a theocracy (state governed by religious leaders), under the leadership of Buddhist lamas, or monks.
Mongol conqueror Genghis Khan incorporated the area into his empire in 1206. In the 15th century the Mongols named the head of the Gelugpa sect of Tibetan Buddhism the Dalai Lama (monk with an ocean of wisdom) and in the 1640s they granted him political power in Tibet.
In the 18th century Tibet came under the control of China. However, in the course of the following century, Chinese authority diminished steadily. Meanwhile, British colonial officials in India, including administrator Warren Hastings, attempted to secure a foothold in the region. These efforts proved unsuccessful, mainly because of Tibetan resentment of an unsuccessful Nepalese invasion of Tibet in the 1790s, which the British had supported.
In 1904 the British, who were alarmed over purported Russian influence in Tibet, invaded the region. At that time, Tibet had considerable autonomy under Chinese authority. In 1906 the British and Chinese governments established an agreement by which Britain recognized the Chinese Empire as Tibetâs suzerain power (state that controls another stateâs international affairs). The agreement also provided for the Chinese governmentâs payment of a large indemnity to the British, who subsequently withdrew their troops. In 1907 the British and Russian governments concluded an agreement pledging noninterference in Tibetan affairs and acknowledging Chinese suzerainty.
Source: Encarta Encyclopedia Standard Edition 2004Following the revolutionary overthrow of Chinaâs Qing dynasty in 1911, Tibetans reasserted their independence and began expelling all Chinese officials and troops from the region, which they accomplished by 1913. That year representatives of Britain, China, and Tibet met in Simla, India, to discuss Tibetâs status and borders. The representatives reached a tentative agreement that provided for a region known as Inner Tibet to become part of China proper and for Chinese suzerainty over an autonomous Outer Tibet, located further west. Despite British and Tibetan acceptance, the Simla agreement was never ratified by the Chinese government, and China later repudiated the convention, refusing to abandon its claim to all of Tibet. Relations between China and Tibet grew increasingly strained, culminating in 1918 in an armed conflict in eastern Tibet. Later that year, the British helped negotiate a truce between Tibet and China. Subsequent efforts to resolve the dispute were unsuccessful.
Just recently, articles have been popping up of recent going-ons regarding the "free Tibet" movement. So, I was wondering if anyone feels that Tibet has a right to independence.
Between India and China.
I didn't ask anything about invading China. I asked whether or not Tibet should be allowed independence.hellrider said:um...should we massively full scale invade china?
Don't be too sure of that.hellrider said:I'm sure our pacific fleets would easily take down entire chinese military in just several hours.
China isn't where the entire world's population of Asians reside.hellrider said:then no more asian and chinese on the planet.
What does Serbia and Russia have anything to do with this discussion?hellrider said:after that we will invade saberia and destroy russia as well. the world will remain peace once again.
Once again, megalomania. I'm starting to think that you're mentally ill. Go seek help.got it now
um...should we massively full scale invade china? this is the perfect opportunity to sqaush them like bug. I'm sure our pacific fleets would easily take down entire chinese military in just several hours. then no more asian and chinese on the planet. after that we will invade saberia and destroy russia as well. the world will remain peace once again.
and after the defeat of russian, the once acting mighty-arrogant serbian farmers that knock its helpeless little neighbar with their proudly but also rusty shovel would probaly pee in the pant and saddonly declare the uncontitional surrender and become little ***** and enjoy their farmers life once again. happy ending.
Isn't that kind of like what Hitler was trying to do... with the Jews? I didn't realize ignorance like yours still existed hellrider. Or maybe you're just trolling.then no more asian and chinese on the planet.