Care to throw out some numbers that support our government being a plutocracy, I certainly don't feel like it is, and like I said early my families only source of income is ONE teacher(I don't know about the UK, but in America teachers get payed like crap). One of my best friends also has a father who can't work and his mother works at places like cosco or mcDOnalds. He's got plenty of ways to raise his/his families lot in life(he's not doing them right now, but he could), and I'm in a college with high placement and starting jobs around 40-70k a year.
I can't name the study, but it has been found that the middle class of America can pass for the upper class in most of the rest of the world. That aside, the evidence of plutocracy is obvious in the history of your presidents and their blood lines; Bush, Obama, Clinton and Cheney are all related for starters, and all of these people are- at the time they run for election, in Obama's case- upper class. It would be unimaginable for anyone working or even middle class to reach for the white house. In other words, the rich rule the poor. Textbook plutocracy.
But almost none of what you are talking about are indicative of problems(or are so old it doesn't matter anymore, like agent orange). A couple stupid cops doesn't mean we suddenly need to throw off the chains of oppression, it means there's at worst a couple cities that need to oust their police force(preferably through court of law or peaceful protest).
There is a massive police brutality problem in America, and it isn't going to be fixed over night. The decision to protest peacefully or violently can be described as the decision of whether to change or secede the state. Is it worth fixing, or does it need to be removed? We've been trying for 70 odd years now to fix it. There was a time when the punk/Anarchist movement thought they could remove it, too. But for the most part we've been screwing around, dancing in the streets while the people that matter ignore us and make their own decisions.
So go ahead and praise a man who probably would have sent your country into a downward spiral as people killed and fought over who would be the new leader
Of course, I do not necessarily believe we would be in a better world, nor do I have the clairvoyance to know whether or not we would be; I was merely using his intentions as an explanation of what I believe is a failure of the American people to uphold their constitutional responsibility of dissent.
Now, as for all the crimes the Bush administration committed, it infuriates me that he GOT AWAY with it, while Clinton gets caught for getting his **** sucked. But what could we have done to call for his arrest?
For what it's worth, we tried. Ron Paul spearheaded the attempt to impeach Bush and got surprisingly far, but no Judges were ballsy enough to go forward with it.
And if we were to revolt, then what? How do we know the next installment would not be corrupt? The governor of Illinois has been voted out of office, and justice has been served, without the need of mass protesting and rioting.
The governer of Illinois was only popular because he was caught, and he was only caught because he was lazy. I'm sure if it was anything new, he would've been more careful. He didn't expect to get caught because no-one ever gets caught, see what I'm saying here? His issue highlights a much larger problem with the system.
As for if we revolt, the question is kinda irrelevant, it would be something we'd have to decide upon after achieving Anarchy. We would need to re-establish everyone's social roles, who the breadwinners are and who is going to defend us, and from there we can form a new government. It is irrelevant to ask "what if we are just as bad", because of course we will try our best to be nothing like the previous system, and if we end up that way it is out of our control. You might as well ask "What if I trip up and smack my face on the pavement on my way to work tomorrow?"
@Harsens
I understand you now then, the only thing I believe we disagree on is that I would put gun control up there with the most heinous crimes of government, perhaps even on the same level as racial segregation.. At a stretch.