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umm..its a fake?...he advertised a myspace band..and the bands selling shirts about it?...please...its just some kid trying to start a fad...and trying too hard imo...


lol..also..incase you havent noticed..look at that myspace bands page..
http://www.myspace.com/blindroutine
now look at their top 8...see Evan on there?..wow..what a coincidence huh?..now lets do a little searching..looking at his pics..he has a mercedes..and is surrounded by beautiful women according to his pics..and yet hes worrying about a 400 dollar sidekick?..please...thats not the type of guy to do this kind of crap...its an obvious fake..
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wow...i wonder what its gonna reveal next...

Sasha is secretly working with Osama Bin Laden and the Carver in a plot for world domination
No SHE is not trying too hard. Don't be an idiot, get facts straight. I bet she was added on the top 8 AFTER the song was released. Notice her saying on the website:
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6/13/2006 8:41 AM

awesome !! im so proud :] :] but wow i have been getting alot of friend requests from being on the top8 lol
Do a bit of research about stuff, first off the T-Shirts is what the band is using to profit off of her loss. Also she closed her online business and closed her paypal account several times. She pays for the website herself.

Listen she uses this website to get support aginst a crime that an other person has committed. Now that the website is working, she will continue updating it until the sidekick issue is resolved. Always in the internet there will be skeptics.

And dont bull **** me about that second idea, its just plain crap.
 
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the second Idea was a joke..im guessing your a stranger to sarcasim?...the point is...this whole thing is idiotic...notice how your all soo "tunned" into some stupid lost sidekick..wow..my sidekick got lost..how sad..people lose their credit cards and get their lives ruined from fradulent charges....noone makes a website about that and tunes in..noone even makes T-shirts...The shirts are to profit money from her loss?...so...because some girl lost a sidekick and got popular..some random myspace band is gonna make a T-shirt about it and make money off of it?...yeah..that makes sense...and noone cares that the bands making T-shirts off of it?..If i had a friend who lost a sidekick..then noticed some random band was getting money from my friends misfortune..id be kinda pissed..and if he is getting money from the shirts then the problem should be resolved..seeing as the money from the shirts would pay off the sidekick in no time...but wait..he doesnt want the money..he wants GLOBAL HUMILIATION!...yeah...cuz everyone in the world is gonna start haggling this girl now that they know she found a phone and didnt return it...cmon..lets get realistic..if people are now really that stupid to buy all that stuff..fine...w/e...its just my opinion..but my dog ran away last year..and someone found him and never gave him back or called the number on the collar..so im gonna make a website dedicated to humiliating people who dont call the tags on lost dog's collars..and then im gonna get a cool myspace band to sponsor the idea, write a song, and sell shirts about it..

Also KWS..i was reffering to Evan, not mariah..so get your facts straight.
 
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the second Idea was a joke..im guessing your a stranger to sarcasim?...the point is...this whole thing is idiotic...notice how your all soo "tunned" into some stupid lost sidekick..wow..my sidekick got lost..how sad..people lose their credit cards and get their lives ruined from fradulent charges....noone makes a website about that and tunes in..noone even makes T-shirts...The shirts are to profit money from her loss?...so...because some girl lost a sidekick and got popular..some random myspace band is gonna make a T-shirt about it and make money off of it?...yeah..that makes sense...and noone cares that the bands making T-shirts off of it?..If i had a friend who lost a sidekick..then noticed some random band was getting money from my friends misfortune..id be kinda pissed..and if he is getting money from the shirts then the problem should be resolved..seeing as the money from the shirts would pay off the sidekick in no time...but wait..he doesnt want the money..he wants GLOBAL HUMILIATION!...yeah...cuz everyone in the world is gonna start haggling this girl now that they know she found a phone and didnt return it...cmon..lets get realistic..if people are now really that stupid to buy all that stuff..fine...w/e...its just my opinion..but my dog ran away last year..and someone found him and never gave him back or called the number on the collar..so im gonna make a website dedicated to humiliating people who dont call the tags on lost dog's collars..and then im gonna get a cool myspace band to sponsor the idea, write a song, and sell shirts about it..

Also KWS..i was reffering to Evan, not mariah..so get your facts straight.
Proof + facts > your opinion.

Pets are a completely different subject all together, and why would someone want to steal your dog?. They would have an added cost of living just to feed the dog, plus animal laws operate in a different manner then laws on stolen property (And if such a thing were to happen it's a more serious case, since it's an animal we are talking about here). This story fits in as a entertainment purpose on a true story, anyone has the right to post what they want to post on the internet, and should it be ilegal at all that's aside for someone else to ethier make a complaint about the content or a legal matter should something end up going that far.

Iv'e been with my mum when she's returned lost phones, does that make the people who bought phones stupid? does it make her stupid for returning them? (no, because there is no need for us to have 10+ phones. This is also apart of her job too). The only things that we may get to keep is property that fials to have someone report it lost/missing, and if there is no way of contacting a person about lost property should there be no contact details on the lost property or no one report it lost, then we get to keep it.

I'd know that i'd be pissed if I lost something that I used in everyday life such as a phone. If some good soul were to return my property i'd be thanknig them a lot, and that's what my I see happen when i'm with my mum returning property. I wouldn't jsut run off with somethnig that isn't mine, for all I know there could be important stuff on a lost phone, and for another matter it's going through the personal property, which is something I don't do.
 
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the second Idea was a joke..im guessing your a stranger to sarcasim?...the point is...this whole thing is idiotic...notice how your all soo "tunned" into some stupid lost sidekick..wow..my sidekick got lost..how sad..people lose their credit cards and get their lives ruined from fradulent charges....noone makes a website about that and tunes in..noone even makes T-shirts...The shirts are to profit money from her loss?...so...because some girl lost a sidekick and got popular..some random myspace band is gonna make a T-shirt about it and make money off of it?...yeah..that makes sense...and noone cares that the bands making T-shirts off of it?..If i had a friend who lost a sidekick..then noticed some random band was getting money from my friends misfortune..id be kinda pissed..and if he is getting money from the shirts then the problem should be resolved..seeing as the money from the shirts would pay off the sidekick in no time...but wait..he doesnt want the money..he wants GLOBAL HUMILIATION!...yeah...cuz everyone in the world is gonna start haggling this girl now that they know she found a phone and didnt return it...cmon..lets get realistic..if people are now really that stupid to buy all that stuff..fine...w/e...its just my opinion..but my dog ran away last year..and someone found him and never gave him back or called the number on the collar..so im gonna make a website dedicated to humiliating people who dont call the tags on lost dog's collars..and then im gonna get a cool myspace band to sponsor the idea, write a song, and sell shirts about it..
I think someone needs a bit of a reality check. :rolleyes:

Until you have valid proof this is all a scam, your opinion is all it is. An opinion. So far, the facts far outweigh what you "think" is going on. After all, everything is a conspiracy in this world, like 9/11, Scientology, 6/6/06, and the Olsen Twins.:laff:
 
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people lose their credit cards and get their lives ruined from fradulent charges....
No they don't, people who lose their credit cards cancel them. Also, most credit card companies don't charge you for purchases you didn't make, and it's not hard to prove you didn't make them, if you didn't have the card.

They bottom of everyone of my credit card statements say "Report any items which do not agree with your records within 30 days of statement date."
 
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Your gonna ask me about a reality check when you guys are making a huge deal over some lame sidekick? People do have their lives ruined by lost credit card charges..its not impossible to happen..im a cashier at my job, and i always ask for a picture ID when someone charges a card, and every once in a while ill get a random "thank you for asking, I had mine stolen a while back and the person made a bunch of false charges so I appreciate you carding me." Its not impossible to happen, and im almost positive if i searched enough id find a couple cases of it happening...Either way..people lose things all the time, cell phones, credit cards, purses, wallets. It happens..this kid Evan needs to get over it and move on..its not even his sidekick..and hes throwing up all these things about how much of an insult it is..Its really rather stupid..like i said..its just my opinion..this thing seems too fishy to me..Hes making too much of a big deal over nothing, and im not the only one who feels this way..

http://impulse100.net/StolenSidekick/viewtopic.php?t=597
http://impulse100.net/StolenSidekick/viewtopic.php?t=734
http://impulse100.net/StolenSidekick/viewtopic.php?t=157
http://impulse100.net/StolenSidekick/viewtopic.php?t=370 (lewl he peddles sex pills)
http://impulse100.net/StolenSidekick/viewtopic.php?t=726


So dont just bombard me and my comments..go ahead and read those threads..and tell me what you think about their arguements aswell..
 
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Your gonna ask me about a reality check when you guys are making a huge deal over some lame sidekick? People do have their lives ruined by lost credit card charges..its not impossible to happen..im a cashier at my job, and i always ask for a picture ID when someone charges a card, and every once in a while ill get a random "thank you for asking, I had mine stolen a while back and the person made a bunch of false charges so I appreciate you carding me." Its not impossible to happen, and im almost positive if i searched enough id find a couple cases of it happening...Either way..people lose things all the time, cell phones, credit cards, purses, wallets. It happens..this kid Evan needs to get over it and move on..its not even his sidekick..and hes throwing up all these things about how much of an insult it is..Its really rather stupid..like i said..its just my opinion..this thing seems too fishy to me..Hes making too much of a big deal over nothing, and im not the only one who feels this way..

http://impulse100.net/StolenSidekick/viewtopic.php?t=597
http://impulse100.net/StolenSidekick/viewtopic.php?t=734
http://impulse100.net/StolenSidekick/viewtopic.php?t=157
http://impulse100.net/StolenSidekick/viewtopic.php?t=370 (lewl he peddles sex pills)
http://impulse100.net/StolenSidekick/viewtopic.php?t=726


So dont just bombard me and my comments..go ahead and read those threads..and tell me what you think about their arguements aswell..
Pffft.... He's already confirmed that this is not a fake story more then once now.
Your gonna ask me about a reality check when you guys are making a huge deal over some lame sidekick?
Who said sidekicks are lame?. They cost A LOT OF MONEY!!!!!. Also, since when do we need the reality check? Shouldn't you say that Evan on the Stolensidekick forums or email him?.
 
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oh your right..so because he said its not a fake story..it isnt...good point..idk what i was thinking...just ignore my previous posts..I forgot how everything you read on the internet is real..
 
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oh your right..so because he said its not a fake story..it isnt...good point..idk what i was thinking...just ignore my previous posts..I forgot how everything you read on the internet is real..
He has defended those statements, heck he's even got media attention. You know how many people would call that a hoax if it has media attention at the same time? (if it was fake, people in the media, and possibly viewers would hate him), I don't think someone is going to create a fake story just to get on radio or television.

That post sounds like this, mainly because of the attitude:
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"Oh I'm right it must be a fake story"
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I forgot how everything you read on the internet is real
It's up to me what I decide to think is real & what is not real on the internet. Heck, his friend is TRYYING TO GET HER SISTER TO THE USA FOR A WEDDING!!!!! And before you come up with anything like "Oh that's a lie too, they are tryying to get her to come into the country & the story is fake anyway". Notice that her friend is getting married and that the information that was on the phone was important. He's also asking for a Lawyer to defend him too incase the counter-lawsuit goes ahead. Now, he does not know these people at all up untill this incident where they know these people are in possesion of the Sidekick that was lost.

Also look at that fact that the girl's myspacehas evidence to point that this is not a hoax, the emails also seem authentic aswell. It is very easy to tell that this is infact NOT A HOAX!!!!!!
 
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your right...Who can argue with harcore evidence such as Myspace accounts, an online journal blog, and I almost forgot how he cited which lawyer he asked to defend himself, the lawfirm, the laywers name. I mean hes got so much time to update little details so im sure he put that info there too, and noone can ever write fake emails and make them seem professional. I mean, Ive never seen a situation where someone has faked an e-mail and tricked people..Oh wait..ESF did it on their main page on april fools day..And your right, Noone would ever make up a story just to get attention..thats proposterous...Oh wait..whats this?
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/f/fingerinchili.htm
Thats right..someone has done something just for attention that ruined peoples lives..So why would I question this. Your completley right, all his evidence is concrete, and full proof. I shouldve thought about this more before I questioned it. Man, I feel so bad now. I think ill make a donation to his porn site to make up for it..
 
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your right...Who can argue with harcore evidence such as Myspace accounts, an online journal blog, and I almost forgot how he cited which lawyer he asked to defend himself, the lawfirm, the laywers name. I mean hes got so much time to update little details so im sure he put that info there too, and noone can ever write fake emails and make them seem professional. I mean, Ive never seen a situation where someone has faked an e-mail and tricked people..Oh wait..ESF did it on their main page on april fools day..And your right, Noone would ever make up a story just to get attention..thats proposterous...Oh wait..whats this?
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/f/fingerinchili.htm
Thats right..someone has done something just for attention that ruined peoples lives..So why would I question this. Your completley right, all his evidence is concrete, and full proof. I shouldve thought about this more before I questioned it. Man, I feel so bad now. I think ill make a donation to his porn site to make up for it..
Remeber, it's also dependant on what you assume to be real or not, & I don't assume that this is a fake. Iv'e said all I needed to say. Also, there were people from here and there around these forums that knew that it was a pril fools joke, note APRIL FOOLS!!! Is it april foosl again already? Nup =/. Also, this is LOST PROPERTY we are talknig about here, not a mod getting shut down where people cannot tell the difference. Need I remind you that ZEQ2's shutdown was not a fake too, which leaves me further to conclude that people are going to run hokes and some aren't. It's only fairly obvious that given the atmosphere around these forums if your'e usually around that esf getting shutdown was an april fools joke, it's only obvious. Funi would of shutdown ESF A LONG TIME AGO if they wanted it shutdown. What you fail to see though is, that comparing the aprils fools joke to a real story is just pathectic when something clearly is not a joke. You also fail to consider one's own knowledge of the internet.
 
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oh your right..so because he said its not a fake story..it isnt...good point..idk what i was thinking...just ignore my previous posts..I forgot how everything you read on the internet is real..
Oh your right..so because you said its a fake story..it isnt...good point...idk what i was thinking...just ignore my previous posts..I forgot how everything you say is true..

your right...Who can argue with harcore evidence such as Myspace accounts, an online journal blog, and I almost forgot how he cited which lawyer he asked to defend himself, the lawfirm, the laywers name. I mean hes got so much time to update little details so im sure he put that info there too, and noone can ever write fake emails and make them seem professional. I mean, Ive never seen a situation where someone has faked an e-mail and tricked people..Oh wait..ESF did it on their main page on april fools day..And your right, Noone would ever make up a story just to get attention..thats proposterous...Oh wait..whats this?
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors...gerinchili.htm
Thats right..someone has done something just for attention that ruined peoples lives..So why would I question this. Your completley right, all his evidence is concrete, and full proof. I shouldve thought about this more before I questioned it. Man, I feel so bad now. I think ill make a donation to his porn site to make up for it..
Your logic is amazing! I mean, who'd have imagined that just because one person lied and pulled a hoax, everyone must do it! Thats the most amazing thing I heard all day. You ought to go into law. You'd become an amazing, logical Lawyer like Jack Thompson!
 
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Logan, Please. Dont even get me started on you, its too easy for me to publicaly bash you on these forums or any other forums for that matter, Ive done my business to leave you alone in threads due to your constant *****ing to mods and their constant hassling of me..so do the same to me...Go work on some BTL stuff or something..Or did you run off on that as well like, the quitter that you are? You always were all talk and no show, and thats why everyone hates you. So stfu and hop off my ****. The point of my post's is that anyone can fake an email, anyone can create a myspace account and put info on it, and anyone can write up some fake quote from a lawyer. Its not hard, and its not rocket science. I'm just saying dont get too caught up on this one story and be like "Zomg this guys so awsome" cuz it seems fishy. The refrence to ESF's april fools joke was an example of how people can forge emails, and make them seem professional. The refrence to the wendy's was an example to show that some people will do anything for fame. So dont put it past people to do stupid **** like make up a story for online fame. You can beleive it if you want, w/e. Im just trying to tell you guys to be cautious on maybe do a little research and get facts elsewhere instead of just reading this one page and using it as your only source of information.
 
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I got linked to this a few days ago. I say good luck to the guy.

@Chang: Who says everyone hates Logan? And if you stopped giving the mods reasons to hassle you then they would stop. Seems pretty logical to me. Also, you just claimed that you were trying to tell us to be cautious. Funny.....the posts seem to just say that it is fake...odd that.

By the way, provoking people is hardly a good way to get them to see your point of view. More often than not is just makes them dead set against you. So sure, people could fake an email but you seem completely incapable of making a convincing argument to that fact.
 
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Cap, mind your business about the logan comment, he understands what I mean. I'm not provoking anyone, if anything its you guys provoking me. This thread was posted, and I said it seemed like a scam to me. Simply because theres too much drama in something so meaningless, I saw what was fishy to my, noted it and stated my opinions. I wasnt like "omg you guys are idiots for beleiving it!" instead i just said it was fake, which was obviously my opinion. Then KWS gets all smart assed and decides to break down all my reasoning while calling me an idiot, like its his ****ing sister thats not able to come from russia cuz of the sidekick. So of course ill get a little upset, instead of going off though, I decide to support my opinions with more reasoning, which I then am confronted with more debates on my own opinion, and how I should beleive this story and stop calling it a fake. When in reality the story holds NO EVIDENCE AT ALL that cant be duplicated by an average PC user with Microsoft word, Paintshop pro, Internet access and a myspace account. But you all seem to think these are solid facts, so whatever. I keep defending my Opinion and even show proof of how weak his credibility really is, and how im not the only one who beleives so. I link you all to other threads posted by disbeleivers asking you to explain their doubts aswell, but instead i get all this Bull**** about "your an idiot hes said hes not lying so he obviously isnt" yeah, and im the ****ing idiot. So I continue to debate with Overlord on how Evan shows no real facts, and then Logan comes in out of left feild throwing in his little pokes and jabs, but logans a little *****, and seeing as I have done nothing to insult him, or even make him look like an idiot. I wont take **** from that pussy, so I defend myself, and continue to defend my opinion. And thats the bottom line, im saying dont get too excited about this cuz I think its a fake, thats all. Im not saying your an idiot for beleiving it. Im saying I think its a fake. So lay off?
 
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Cap, mind your business about the logan comment, he understands what I mean. I'm not provoking anyone, if anything its you guys provoking me. This thread was posted, and I said it seemed like a scam to me. Simply because theres too much drama in something so meaningless, I saw what was fishy to my, noted it and stated my opinions. I wasnt like "omg you guys are idiots for beleiving it!" instead i just said it was fake, which was obviously my opinion. Then KWS gets all smart assed and decides to break down all my reasoning while calling me an idiot, like its his ****ing sister thats not able to come from russia cuz of the sidekick. So of course ill get a little upset, instead of going off though, I decide to support my opinions with more reasoning, which I then am confronted with more debates on my own opinion, and how I should beleive this story and stop calling it a fake. When in reality the story holds NO EVIDENCE AT ALL that cant be duplicated by an average PC user with Microsoft word, Paintshop pro, Internet access and a myspace account. But you all seem to think these are solid facts, so whatever. I keep defending my Opinion and even show proof of how weak his credibility really is, and how im not the only one who beleives so. I link you all to other threads posted by disbeleivers asking you to explain their doubts aswell, but instead i get all this Bull**** about "your an idiot hes said hes not lying so he obviously isnt" yeah, and im the ****ing idiot. So I continue to debate with Overlord on how Evan shows no real facts, and then Logan comes in out of left feild throwing in his little pokes and jabs, but logans a little *****, and seeing as I have done nothing to insult him, or even make him look like an idiot. I wont take **** from that pussy, so I defend myself, and continue to defend my opinion. And thats the bottom line, im saying dont get too excited about this cuz I think its a fake, thats all. Im not saying your an idiot for beleiving it. Im saying I think its a fake. So lay off?
You're more than welcome to state your opinion but you didn't state it like an opinion. The bolded part "i just said it was fake" is how you state a fact, not an opinion, "I think it's fake" is stating an opinion. Personally, I don't care if it's real or not, if it is then good luck to the guy, if it's not, well it's not made my life a pit of despair so who cares? We could argue about this for days as neither side has any solid proof. Look at religion, people argue about that all the time due to lacking proof for either side so with that in mind what's the point arguing this? But, do what you please.

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but logans a little *****, and seeing as I have done nothing to insult him, or even make him look like an idiot. I wont take **** from that pussy, so I defend myself, and continue to defend my opinion. And thats the bottom line, im saying dont get too excited about this cuz I think its a fake, thats all. Im not saying your an idiot for beleiving it. Im saying I think its a fake. So lay off?
So you insult him to say you're not insulting him?
 
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Didn't Chang get banned once before for losing his temper?

Anyway.. I doubt it's a fake. And like Cap J said - it's not like it's going to dramatically change my life if it isn't. Apparently, Chang likes to think we're all mindless sheep who can't think for ourselves. Sad, really.
 
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No, see..your all twisting my words..i insulted logan in my previous posts because he insulted me first..for no reason..im already not on good terms with him..but i was holding my temper in and trying to be respectful..me insulting him just now was due to his initial insult.and im not saying your mindless sheep shiyojin, im stating that your only using this guys page as your source of info on the situation, why not try to get others? I dont beleive it to be true, because of the reasons previously stated. Twist them all you want. But this is the bottom line of what im trying to Say:
I think its fake, because hes making too much of a big deal off of something so small, as well as the fact that hes making money off of it..
 
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To answer your question, I don't bother to research the guy and get info from elsewhere as it doesn't make any difference to my day.
 
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Logan, Please. Dont even get me started on you, its too easy for me to publicaly bash you on these forums or any other forums for that matter, Ive done my business to leave you alone in threads due to your constant *****ing to mods and their constant hassling of me..so do the same to me...Go work on some BTL stuff or something..Or did you run off on that as well like, the quitter that you are? You always were all talk and no show, and thats why everyone hates you. So stfu and hop off my ****. The point of my post's is that anyone can fake an email, anyone can create a myspace account and put info on it, and anyone can write up some fake quote from a lawyer. Its not hard, and its not rocket science. I'm just saying dont get too caught up on this one story and be like "Zomg this guys so awsome" cuz it seems fishy. The refrence to ESF's april fools joke was an example of how people can forge emails, and make them seem professional. The refrence to the wendy's was an example to show that some people will do anything for fame. So dont put it past people to do stupid **** like make up a story for online fame. You can beleive it if you want, w/e. Im just trying to tell you guys to be cautious on maybe do a little research and get facts elsewhere instead of just reading this one page and using it as your only source of information.
Don't have anything to back yourself up rather than personal attacks? Thats very common with you, isn't it? :rolleyes:

No one here agrees with you. Not one. Of course, you can always enlist the "Zeonix Brigade" to come bail you out and back you up as always, but since "fearless leader" is no longer around, you don't have many options other than continue this pointless circus of an argument, as well as try throwing in personal attacks against me which, quite frankly, only worsens your standing.

Knowing you, you'll probably come right back and post another long wall-o-text about how much you and everyone on earth hates me and that you're right and everyone else is wrong. That seems to be your bread and butter. So do us all a favor and throw away your soap box. No need to stand on it and bore us with another long "I hate Logan" speech.
 

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