Goku WIP

[Fatality]

when its finished >_>

kreshi, great work on the ssj3 hair. i absolutely love it ^.^

 

[Skiwan]

hmmmm its good normal form, but ssj3, its not buff enough around the neck, and the slope of the forhead is too flat atm, its not like that, its almost like picolo's brow, its weird >_< its kinda like vegeta's too with the angle of the brow, anyway... the trouser folds are still bad, and i think that the hair is a little too small,ssj3 goku had hair almost touching his ankles at times, It was awesome normal form, but i think there are a few things you could work on, its almost brilliant but there are a few things i disagree with =\

 

[Kreshi]

I fixed his eyebrows things... I don´t know what it is exactly called, but i think you know what i mean.
I fixed some parts of the hair.
I tested him ingame and it was really fun.
The esf animations works great to him.
The problem is that I was too lazy to skinmap every spike of the SSJ3 hair so i just make a side-skinmap of it and add some soft detail to it.
The thing is, i lose some motivation to still working hard on goku.
And i am also too lazy to fix his pants skin.
BUT this things mean that i can and will release him for ESF soon.
And for the guys who wanna reskin it, or edit his skin, they will be allowed to do so.
There will be again a README there which tells more.

The 2 things I fixed on the SSJ3 Goku, made him looking better, more accurate and more "evil" in my opinion. And I also changed his smily, so he isn´t loughing anymore.

I´ll post some ingame pics tomorrow... or maybe an ingame clip.

EDIT:

I´ll maybe make a SSJ4 version later.

some gotenks news:
I´ll start working on the SSJ3 Gotenks version after I released goku.
And this time it will replace another character (I´m thinking about gohan).

 

[ReCkOninG of FirE]

i think you should replace krillin since there are some great models already coming out for gohan, i havn't seen or noticed any for krillin yet

and also im happy to hear about goku not having a lauf with his ultra long ssj3 hair no more

 

[Ravendust]

Looking forward to seeing it in action :yes:

I´ll maybe make a SSJ4 version later.

Please do

 

[dor]

Kreshi i love your work ..can you post some screen shots for us ??

 

[The_Real_Legend]

I agree with fortnox on the hairwideness.
I had some time on my hands so

The left colour edit is how ssj3 goku looked most of the time in the anime even without an aura. So that also might make em look more like ssj3.
I don't know but I still have this feeling his legs are too short and that might be the reason aswell he doesn't look though enough.
Maybe his torso + arms are to wide. Even if you followed that settei perfectly I would just try to lenghten his legs. I would do em good.

Edit: updated my drawover with a hair edit aswell.

 

[Skiwan]

Beautiful drawover real legend, i gotta agree with it all =\, also i'd like to say the back folds even like real legend says, they arent acurate, they gather at the arse :x, behind the knees, the belt, and into the shoes, there isnt much anywhere else. But anyway, if u follow real legends drawover it'd look sound ^_^

oh and dont forget about his forehead though, i think that could still be changed >_<

 

[The_Real_Legend]

Hey thanks man
Eehm well this would have to be the most accurate ssj3 i can manage.
-narrow forehead
-pointy chin
-thick neck muscles
-slender, long legs
-and his torso lengthened a bit

 

[luckyownz92]

Looks better and the pants look wierd and brighten up his clothes a little

 

[Adrian_cool69]

hm dont forgett the blue tshirt that comes out of the back 2...

http://www.freehostsltd.com/sites/talania/goku.jpg

hm i could´t find a good pic atm... so u see the back shirt where it is black.. i think u misst it... alot off ppl do in there goku... i dont se why... :O...

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and for the last pic... if u look at pants then go up wards.. du will se before the stomace band that the skin totoly looks diffrent... like it is 2 skins at the same part... and for the stomace band.. isent it a little to thick?....

// sorry for my bad english

 

[Jenny_Kitty]

oh wow, thanks for the definition... how about you go ask your teacher if thats the right word to use.. Impervious is like saying perfect or incapable of being surpassed (incapable of being penetrated) as thought it were impermiable/invincible, so yes, i did use the right word. KTHX

Uh, no its not, but I suppose its quite alright that you don't understand, considering a couple people have already told you the definition of the word and you chose to continue to be a complete idiot over it.

 

[guest]

nice draw over real legend, it looks much better. hope ya improve it based on that kreshi

 

[ultrassj_vegeta]

Hey thanks man
Eehm well this would have to be the most accurate ssj3 i can manage.
-narrow forehead
-pointy chin
-thick neck muscles
-slender, long legs
-and his torso lengthened a bit

Way to long, try drawing over the pants the actual shape of his legs and tell me if it seems proportionate considering the length of his upper body aswell.

 

[Kreshi]

BIG THX TO THE REAL LEGEND FOR HIS HELP
and to the other guys who give good crits also :fight:

UPDATE:


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THE SSJ3-HAIR ISN´T SKINNED YET!!!!!!!
THE PICS AREN´T 100% ILLUMINATED (or whatever it´s called^^).
HE IS IN THE ESF-SKELETON STANDARD POSITION.
THE TEXTURE RESOLUTION IS THE RESOLUTION WHICH WILL BE USED FOR ESF.


I hope I fixed allmost everything now (besides the back of the pants!!! still too lazy too fix them)

@davidskiwan
Do you mean with the forehead, the fat things above his eyes? If you meant that, they should be fixed now, if not I don´t know what you mean



BTW, do you like the new skintones?

 

[The_Real_Legend]

Great improvement man! Good job!
About the hairline. It was right before but it just needed to be less wide.
So something with the wideness you have now and the straight line you had before.
Now before you skin the hair, you should know that if you want to make it perfect you'll have to add another row of polys to the spikes making the points face upwards like in my drawover. But ofcourse that's just the perfectionist in me talking. It already looks great this way.
Now have you tried making him bigger? Cause i don't see any real difference. Maybe smallening his head could do but i'm not sure. Because really he still has teenlike proportions. He doesn't look like a full grown man.
Otherwise good job on the neck. That really makes a difference.
Maybe you could widen his shoulders a wee bit also...
BUT hell i'm whining here... THE MODEL LOOKS GREAT.
The normal form is pretty much perfect. Man! I want to see this baby in esf!!

 

[Kreshi]

@The Real Legend
Look, if i made the hair 100% like your drawover, I would almost need to make the whole hair new... BUT if you saw some other SSJ3 pics, you will see that the SSJ3 hair of my goku isn´t that much away from it... Gokus hair changes from time to time... and i also think that the model have to look good from front, side, back and the most important thing from the perspective view. Goku SSJ3 have so many spikes and they are in all pics different... it´s hard to get the right mix.
And the biggest problem about the hair is, that i start doing it from the buttom instead of the top... that made it looking strange, not accurate and too spiky (it was really very very spikey before)...
Fixing the spikyness was the hardest thing... giving it a volume and so on....

And about the sizes, I made a pic of my model, check all proportions and they was fine.
I don´t think he need to be bigger... He already is bigger then in the GREAT manga pics and in the GREAT other pics.
And I also don´t think that Goku´s head goes smaller when he turn SSJ3, so i let it the same and just change chin, eyes and other little proportions there.
And it´s also impossible that goku get bigger legs when he went SSJ3.

BUT your drawover was still really AWESOME for fixing the hair and the skintones! (The head and some other things was already fixed, but I didn´t got time yesterday to show the update)

 

[Skiwan]

okey, u have the face pretty much sorted, but i think you need to beef him up a bit now, cuz ssj3 like all forms involves a change in muscle structure, you need to broaden the shoulders, thicken and move up the arms, maybe extend the legs a little, keep the waist as it is, it will exaggerate the muscles. take a look at my drawover to see what i would change, take a good look at the face and forehead, its a much smoother transition than you have modeled, anyway awesome model man, this is definately one of the best, here u go =P:

trust me when i say his proportions do change, i have the last manga book next to me right now, with the fight between ssj3 goku and kid buu, i always use manga as reference

 

[luckyownz92]

Normal Goku clothes are TOO dark make it a bit more like the color you used for ssj3 BEFORE you updated his clothes and hair

 

[Ultimate Trunks]

okey, u have the face pretty much sorted, but i think you need to beef him up a bit now, cuz ssj3 like all forms involves a change in muscle structure, you need to broaden the shoulders, thicken and move up the arms, maybe extend the legs a little, keep the waist as it is, it will exaggerate the muscles. take a look at my drawover to see what i would change, take a good look at the face and forehead, its a much smoother transition than you have modeled, anyway awesome model man, this is definately one of the best, here u go =P:

trust me when i say his proportions do change, i have the last manga book next to me right now, with the fight between ssj3 goku and kid buu, i always use manga as reference

Thats a great drawover and I cant wait to play with this model Kreshi great job