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I had one when I first started skiing. My friend didn't start me off on anything close to a bunny trail and I had never done it before. So I get going and I'm doing a bit better. All of a sudden I hit a groove and loose control a bit and the ground is so icy that i would keep going. Well up ahead is a nice cliff with some owch looking trees. I managed to finally regain control and cut back away from the cliff a few feet before it. After that I hit my friend and went on wood trails for some real excitement.