No, all other downloads are fine, and the 20kb/s rate applies to files over 10mb, i am trying to download the 1.2.3 win32 server patch (9mb) and my stable dl rate is 3kb/s. anyone know of any US hosted sites? the only two i have tried are german (1 ESF world and 1 other site) and the second site uses the same popup wait thingo as ESF world so i have a feeling they are hosted in the same location.