ESF 1.3 Textures

[Boogyman93]

I am pretty sure that not all textures in ESF 1.3 will have bump mapping so I was thinking why not add texture detail. You can make the texture detail to look like a fake bump mapping effect and that will make maps look very detailed and cool.
I was just looking at the picture with the new Frieza model and I saw that even with the new textures you guys made for the maps they still look blurry up close. Maybe you can make a texture detail to look like grass or dirt? It will make the texture look much better from up close.

 

[Grega]

Do you know how BIG those maps are compared to the textures used.

So unless you want to load of 100 MB of texture data alone while loading a single map i doubt you want this.

 

[Boogyman93]

I don't think most people will have a problem with waiting a few more minutes for a map to load. ESF 1.2.3 with ECX RC2 + Big Pack makes the game load much longer and yet people still use it.

 

[Greenberet]

you know that a graphic cards have a specifig MB limit?
if the total amount of mb is bigger then this one ---> BAAAAD PERFORMANCE

 

[Boogyman93]

I thought it was mostly about the Core Clock and Memory Clock. Overclocking those two increased the performance in my games by a lot. Anyway, most people have video cards with DDR3 memory these days so I don't think video card memory will be a problem either.

 

[Skiwan]

If you build the map right (modular approach rather than terrain generated) and use proper textures instead of topdown crap it's much more efficient. I can create a whole map with just 2x1024 textures and 2x512... double that size for normal map textures... not much gpu ram taken up there.

for eg:

There's nothing blurry about the new frieza model textures, its just hl's crappy rendering system, in max, its sharp as hell

 

[Boogyman93]

I wasn't talking about the Frieza model, he looks great. But the ground he was standing on looked very blurry from up close.

 

[hleV]

most people have video cards with DDR3 memory these days so I don't think video card memory will be a problem either.

Are you saying that the team mustn't care about people who have trash?

Anyway this thread led to something. Dave gave us some pictures!

 

[Darth Revan]

i wonder if the coders will find there way around that crappy hl rendering system

 

[Skiwan]

that map that frieza was shot on was a top down texture on that area, thus the bluryness, if it was created like the scene I created above, it'd be much more detailed.

 

[Darth Revan]

hmm sounds like a good way to make ze maps

 

[Boogyman93]

Are you saying that the team mustn't care about people who have trash?

Hell no lol. If you can't run something smoothly just lower it or disable it. But the people that can run everything max with no problem would like to see the detail.

 

[Grega]

This is HL 1. Compare it to that please ^^

 

[wheres_]

If you build the map right (modular approach rather than terrain generated) and use proper textures instead of topdown crap it's much more efficient. I can create a whole map with just 2x1024 textures and 2x512... double that size for normal map textures... not much gpu ram taken up there.

for eg:

There's nothing blurry about the new frieza model textures, its just hl's crappy rendering system, in max, its sharp as hell

Don't stress man, you've probably made the most accurate 3d freeza ever. lol seriously.

 

[KarrdeKNR]

If that's true then david we should prolly get the other mappers doing what you're doing?

 

[Kunio]

i maked hd texture packs for counter strike 1.6 and there is a diference

 

[Grega]

OK now i want you to look at the same map in ESF.
Tell me the difference betwean the 2.

 

[Boogyman93]

i maked hd texture packs for counter strike 1.6 and there is a diference

Wow... Now that's some awesome texture detail. Do you also make for details for Half-Life or only CS 1.6?

 

[Kunio]

OK now i want you to look at the same map in ESF.
Tell me the difference betwean the 2.

nearly the same clarity

 

[Grega]

Even up close?

Remember in ESF all those textures will seen 4 times the size.