Ducks LIKE water? My whole life is a lie!

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Despite the public outcry, reports suggest that the duck research may even be extended -- with researchers following up on the initial study to find out how often ducks use the showers.
After this, they're going to research if ducks like bubble baths. Maybe test different bath salts and related aromatherapy.

What I want to know is just what they were buying with that money to test if ducks like showers or just standing water better.
 
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How does putting ducks in a shower, cost 500k?

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Because scams are a *****.
Economic crisis' can do that to a guy.. or in this case, a bunch of desperate scientists trying to make a living out of anything remotely interesting and/or relevant.
 
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Yep, experiments - getting paid. Scientist: what do I care of the results? get myself paid


exactly
 
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If I ever take over the world (keep your fingers crossed) these scientists will be in the first batch of my gene-splicing experiments.
 
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way to go government officials, whoever gave them this money should be flogged :p
 
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Scientists doing pointless and stupid research studies that everyone with any amount of common sense, a brain, consciousness or a combination of all three could have came up with the same answer for about 500,000 dollars less?! What is this world coming to?!
I know right? I totally agree. yo.
 

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Last week you'll probably have read some of these stories about ducks.

Unfortunately, whilst these reports were a gift for pun-writers, they failed to reflect the serious nature of this research into improving the welfare of farm animals.

Marian Stamp Dawkins of Oxford's Department of Zoology led the research, which was published in the journal Applied Animal Behaviour [see paper], and below she tells us why the research was necessary and what it revealed:


Marian Stamp Dawkins: 'Our research is based on the idea that if we really want to improve farm animal welfare, we need sound evidence (as opposed to just speculation) about what good welfare is. We also have to see animal welfare as part of a package of other important components including human health, care for the environment and (essential but often neglected), a decent living for farmers.'

'The welfare of commercially farmed ducks provides a classic example of how unexpectedly difficult it can be to find a way forward that satisfies all elements of the package. I am not talking about keeping small numbers of ducks in a back garden. I am talking about large scale intensive farms where thousands of ducks may be kept in one house.'

'About 18 million ducks are reared in this way in the UK each year. They grow to slaughter weight in just 9 weeks and although some have troughs in which they can dip their heads, access to water for many is through overhead nipple drinkers. The ducks peck at the nipples for large droplets of drinking water.'

'Now, here is the dilemma. The commercial duck producers would very much like to provide ducks with bathing water but – and this is what is so often misunderstood – doing so brings health and welfare problems with it. Ducks defaecate in ponds which means that even clean water potentially becomes contaminated with Campylobacter and other organisms that cause food poisoning in humans. The ducks drink it and it gets in their eyes and feathers. Even with troughs that they can only dip their heads into, water often splashes onto the floor, making it wet and soggy. Cleaning the water repeatedly uses vast quantities of water and disposing of the dirty water is an even greater ecological problem.'

'Duck producers and retailers want to be able to improve duck welfare but don’t know how without running into possibly worse problems. So what are they to do?'

'The foundation of good welfare is good health but for most people ‘good welfare’ means more than just not being diseased or injured. It also means that the animals have a good quality of life – in other words that they have what they want most and are not deprived of things that are important to them. Our work was concerned to help the producers find a ‘package’ that suited everyone – something that the farmers could use in a practical way, that would not have the health hazards of stagnant ponds and that gave the ducks what they wanted from a bathe.'

'So what we had to find out was whether we could find a method of water delivery that was more hygienic and less wasteful of water than ponds and still satisfied duck welfare. To do this, we needed to try out different ways of providing bathing water such as showers (hoses with irrigation nozzles), troughs and small ponds to see how the ducks responded because many peoples’ first reaction is that ducks must be given ponds, even though there is no scientific evidence to back this up.'

'So how did the ducks rank a shower (more hygienic and economical) against actual bathing in a pond? Pretty highly, it turned out. Their health was good and they spend even more time with showers than with the ponds when given the choice. We found no evidence of them being deprived of anything if they just had showers. On the contrary, showers were, from their point of view and ours, a very good substitute.'

'To ensure that our work was directly relevant to real duck farming, we worked from the beginning with large commercial producers, who have been encouraging and supportive all along because they want to find a solution to the dilemma as much as anyone else. They gave us no financial support (that would have compromised the neutrality of the study) but were extremely helpful in allowing us to carry out an assessment of duck health and welfare on their farms.'

'The 3 year study, which consisted of the farm assessment of duck welfare and behaviour, plus two large trials, was financed by Defra and was completed on time and on budget. There will be three other scientific publications besides this first one, including a report of the current state of health and welfare of ducks on commercial farms, a detailed analysis of sequences of bathing behaviour, a study of the extent to which the birds try to synchronize their behaviour and a quantitative analysis of motivation. In addition there are clear indications to duck producers and to legislators as to how duck welfare can be improved in practice.'

'Scientists are supposed to publicise their research and I only hope that that the publicity caused by the extraordinary media distortion of this study will, in the long run, benefit the one group that the work was aimed at in the first place – the ducks themselves.'

Professor Marian Stamp Dawkins is based at Oxford's Department of Zoology
Source: http://www.ox.ac.uk/media/science_blog/090528.html
 
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Scientists doing research?! What is this world coming to?!
I'm not denying they found out something important, ducks prefer showers to clean as opposed to standing water, but why in God's name did it cost them 300k pounds to do it? It's not a matter of what they studied, but the cost of the study.
 
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I'm not denying they found out something important, ducks prefer showers to clean as opposed to standing water, but why in God's name did it cost them 300k pounds to do it? It's not a matter of what they studied, but the cost of the study.
I can see how take about 50 ducks, prepare them 2 places 1 with still water and 1 with a shower and then count the numbers on both sides, repeat 5 times and report what the majority of the ducks preferred can take 300k pounds to complete.

Seriously. With that much cash you could perform all that "research" they would each have enough cash to buy themselves a 42 inch TV for their living room, remodel the kitchen AND have enough left over to last them for a few more months of doing nothing.
 
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I bet they looked so adorable though.
 
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300,000 pounds isn't THAT much actually. Read the first sentence. "Many Brits are fuming about a three-year, taxpayer-funded study"


Their study took three years (for which they probably have a good reason). So that's 100,000 pounds a year. Let's say only 3 scientists at most worked on the study, that's 33,000 pounds a year worth of salary for each scientist. (I don't know what the average income of a scientist is in Britain, but let's just make an assumption of 33,000 pounds.)

So although the study might not have been as interesting as the latest Samsung television, it surely did not 'waste' 300,000 pounds. Scientists do research things, and even they need money to live.
 
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I'd rather they'd spent that money researching why the **** our train system is a sham. Oh well.
 

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