Dragonball Tier Top Ten (manga, canon discussion only)

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i say like this this is the right one Buu it's just Buu so he suld be only 1 charater so it suld be like this
1.)SSJ Vegito
2.)Buu (anyform)
3.)Mystic Gohan
4.)SSJ 3 Goku
5.)SSJ 3 Gotenks
6.)SSJ 2 Vegeta (Majin)
7.)Suprem KAI
8.)Cell
9.)Picolo
10.)Krillin
 
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To further clarify the whole Buu tier thing, for people still kind of...overrating Chibi Buu:

Kid Buu is weaker than the Fat Buu, actually....at one point he's even directly equated to the Skinny Buu. Fat Buu certainly pushed SSJ3 Goku pretty hard, whereas Kid Buu would have been "obliterated" if Goku were to reach full power....

In addition, think about it. The Buu of Pure Wrath (Skinny Buu/Evil Buu) was in a completely pure form, completely evil...like Kid Buu. He assumed the form of Shin Buu (Super Buu) upon absorbing the Good Buu that remained after expelling this being from his full form. Afterwards, he absorbed many others. Now, everything is pulled out by Goku and Vegeta inside his own body. He reverts back down to his base form, Shin Buu. They proceed to remove the Good Buu, much to Shin Buu's horror. So ...everything's removed...everything down to what the Skinny Buu absorbed. In other words, it doesn't make much sense for Chibi Buu not to be in the same range as the Skinny Buu. I hope this, along with the previous part of this post (in addition to all the quotes that I posted earlier on) help to clear a lot of this stuff up. =)

Yeah, within the canon storyline it would probably be something like: Gohan Buu>>>Gotenks Buu>>>Buff Buu>>>Piccolo Buu>>>Shin Buu (Super Buu)>>>Fat Buu>>>Chibi Buu (Kid Buu)>/=/<Aku Buu (Evil Buu/Skinny Buu)>>>Good Buu (Mr. Buu)

SSJ Gotenks would be stronger than SSJ3 Goku too, after the time spent training in the Room of Spirit and Time (Hyperbolic Time Chamber), as it was stated that he had "powered up hugely". The manga seems to imply that his SSJ state was around Goku's level previous to that training.
 
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SSJ Vegito
Kid Buu
Gohan-Buu
Gotenks-Buu
Piccolo-Buu
Super Buu
SSJ3 Gotanks
SSJ3 Goku
Skinny Buu
Fat Buu
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SS Vegito
Gohan Buu
Gotenks Buu
Vegito = Mystic Gohan
Piccolo Buu
SS3 Gotenks
Super Buu
SS3 Goku = Kid Buu
Skinny Buu


Vegetto
Super Buu with Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and Piccolo Absorbed
Super Buu with Gotenks and Piccolo absorbed
Mystic Gohan
Buff Buu<= SSJ3 Gotenks
Super Buu with Piccolo, Goten, and Trunks absorbed
Super Buu
SSJ Gotenks=Dead SSJ3 Goku
Evil Buu
KidBuu
Alive SSJ3 Goku
Majin Buu
Mr. Buu
SSJ2 Vegeta
SSJ2 Gohan
Piccolo
Trunks
Goten
Wrong. Your last 7. Are we talking end of the series? If so...

Gohan
Goku
Vegeta
Mr. Buu
Piccolo
Trunks
Goten


WHere's KidBuu he's about 2x times stronger then Super buu
Excuse me, johnvolcock, or however your name is spelled, do you have proof to back that up? If not, stop talking about DBZ as if you know it all.

so he suld be as Mystic gohan or even stronger
Apparently you're amongst some of the least knowledgeable when it comes to Dragon Ball Z.
 
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1. ssj4 gogeta
2. omega shenron
3. sin shenron
4. ssj4 goku
5. nova/eis shenron
6. super 17
7. ssj4 vegeta
8. babi vegeta
9. majub
10. ssj3 goku (beginning at gt)
11. super vegetto
12. general rildo
13. gohan buu
14. uub (10 years of training at hytro-time chamber)
15. kid buu
16. ssj gogeta
17. mystric gohan
18. ssj3 gotenks
19. big buu
20. jamemba
21. hiddigan
22. evil buu
23. hatchyack
24. fat buu
25. brolly (movie 10)
26. south supreme kai
27. kid buu (primery version)
28. great supreme kai
29. mr buu (begining at gt, much weaker)
30. pikkon
31. simma force (combine mod)
32. luud
33. majin vegeta
34. lagic (first oppoment in gt)
35. super perfect cell
36. brolly (movie 8)
37. kobito kai
38. ssj2 teen gohan
39. bajack
40. perfect cell
41. dabura
42. adult gohan
43. naturon shenron
44. jamempa
45. supreme kai
46. piccolo
47. kobito
48. yakkon
49. ussj2 trunks
50. cell jr.
51. ussj trunks
52. assj vegeta
53. semi-perfect cell
54. the hell fighters
55. super 13
56. android 16
57. simma forces
58. android 17/18
59. bajack's hanchman
60. metal cooler
61. cooler
62. ssj vegeta (first time transform)
63. android 19
64. android 20
65. android 13
66. android 14
67. android 15
68. android 17/18 (future)
69. ssj ghan (future)
70. robo-frieza
71. ssj trunks (future)
72. oceanus shenron
73. ssj goku (in namek)
74. ssj goku jr.
75. ssj kid trunks
76. ssj kid goten
77. frieza
79. pan
78. king cold
81. tenshinhan
82. rage shenron
83. puipui
84. haze shenron
85. yammu
86. krillin
87. yamcha
88. dr. muu
89. muten robot
90. lord slug
91. cooler's robot
92. bubidi's soldier
93. sauza
94. bubidi
95. cap ginyu
96. grand kai
97. jeese
98. chaosu
99. recomme
100. dooer
 
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WTF @ including GT in a manga-based topic, and STILL putting Kid Buu ludicrously high regardless of advice otherwise. o_O

Read the title people, "manga, canon discussion only".
 
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1. ssj4 gogeta
2. omega shenron
3. sin shenron
4. ssj4 goku
5. nova/eis shenron
6. super 17
7. ssj4 vegeta
8. babi vegeta
9. majub
10. ssj3 goku (beginning at gt)
11. super vegetto
12. general rildo
13. gohan buu
14. uub (10 years of training at hytro-time chamber)
15. kid buu
16. ssj gogeta
17. mystric gohan
18. ssj3 gotenks
19. big buu
20. jamemba
21. hiddigan
22. evil buu
23. hatchyack
24. fat buu
25. brolly (movie 10)
26. south supreme kai
27. kid buu (primery version)
28. great supreme kai
29. mr buu (begining at gt, much weaker)
30. pikkon
31. simma force (combine mod)
32. luud
33. majin vegeta
34. lagic (first oppoment in gt)
35. super perfect cell
36. brolly (movie 8)
37. kobito kai
38. ssj2 teen gohan
39. bajack
40. perfect cell
41. dabura
42. adult gohan
43. naturon shenron
44. jamempa
45. supreme kai
46. piccolo
47. kobito
48. yakkon
49. ussj2 trunks
50. cell jr.
51. ussj trunks
52. assj vegeta
53. semi-perfect cell
54. the hell fighters
55. super 13
56. android 16
57. simma forces
58. android 17/18
59. bajack's hanchman
60. metal cooler
61. cooler
62. ssj vegeta (first time transform)
63. android 19
64. android 20
65. android 13
66. android 14
67. android 15
68. android 17/18 (future)
69. ssj ghan (future)
70. robo-frieza
71. ssj trunks (future)
72. oceanus shenron
73. ssj goku (in namek)
74. ssj goku jr.
75. ssj kid trunks
76. ssj kid goten
77. frieza
79. pan
78. king cold
81. tenshinhan
82. rage shenron
83. puipui
84. haze shenron
85. yammu
86. krillin
87. yamcha
88. dr. muu
89. muten robot
90. lord slug
91. cooler's robot
92. bubidi's soldier
93. sauza
94. bubidi
95. cap ginyu
96. grand kai
97. jeese
98. chaosu
99. recomme
100. dooer
There was no purpose in doing that, it's totally irrelevant to this topic, and it's also wrong.
 
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Bah,the Magna makes the Dragonball Z series soo confusing >_> I hate it.
Just go with the Dub ^_^ Dub for the win.

SS2 Vegito [Im pretty sure Vegito was a SS2,not SS1]
SS2 Gogeta
Kid Buu
SS3 Goku
Mystic Gohan.
Gohan Buu
Gotenks Buu
Piccolo Buu
SS3 Gotenks
Super Buu
Skinny Buu
Fat Buu

Unbunker...GT imo is the WORST anime ever. I hated it. I will never like it. Its stupid, childish and pathetic.

-GuZzie
 
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Actually, the anime was pretty damn...sub-par. Atleast the manga made sense, rather than Toei pulling all these retarded logically paradoxial plot holes out of their rear side, and mixing the crap into the mess...resulting in something covered in crap.

Toriyama's work ftw.

And...why does that matter? This topic says MANGA ONLY in the title. It's not just a matter of...personal preference or opinion, whether or not you can post anime-based stuff in here.

I'll restate myself. I'd like people to go by canon, official sources, rather than unofficial, less reliable ones.

And GT was bad even for Toei....
 
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Bah,the Magna makes the Dragonball Z series soo confusing >_> I hate it.
Just go with the Dub ^_^ Dub for the win.

SS2 Vegito [Im pretty sure Vegito was a SS2,not SS1]
SS2 Gogeta
Kid Buu
SS3 Goku
Mystic Gohan.
Gohan Buu
Gotenks Buu
Piccolo Buu
SS3 Gotenks
Super Buu
Skinny Buu
Fat Buu

Unbunker...GT imo is the WORST anime ever. I hated it. I will never like it. Its stupid, childish and pathetic.

-GuZzie

that is more wrong then a piece of crap being white. no offence, but PLEASE READ THE MANGA before you even argue in this topic.
 
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If I were to re-order that....actually, that's amazing. There literally isn't a single thing in that entire list that I wouldn't re-order. Like...Chou Gohan>>>Gohan Buu??? How is that even possible???

For starters, Vegetto never went Super Saiya-jin 2. This is confirmed by the fact that he a) only displayed a lightning charged aura in the initial power up, and appeared as a mastered Super Saiya-jin for the rest of the fight, and b) doesn't match Toriyama's theoretical sketches of a SSJ2 Vegetto.

Gogeta doesn't exist, really.

Chibi Buu is rather weak. He's, logically, the same type of base form as Aku Buu (Evil Buu/Skinny Buu), gave Goku less trouble than Fat Buu initially, and is even called "the Skinny Buu" at one point.

It is stated that at full power, SSJ3 Goku could "obliterate" Chibi Buu. I.e. Quite a bit stronger.

Chou Gohan displays a power that Goku states he didn't even know was possible...and in addition, makes child's play out of a form of Buu that Goku was terrified of fighting.

Gohan Buu is the strongest form of Buu. Probably the only individual in the series stronger than him is MSSJ Vegetto.

Gotenks Buu states clearly, upon first forming that he is the mightiest majin ever, past, present and future. All though "future" is proven wrong in a direct statement in which Gohan Buu testifies to being stronger than before, Majin Buu knows his own past...in addition, this form was clearly much stronger than Gohan. He nearly killed him, wasn't hurt at all in his fight, and even after Gohan is healed states that he is only back to his "former ineptitude".

I doubt Piccolo Buu is stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks. An increase from Piccolo would probably be so insignificant for Shin Buu, that you could barely tell the difference, and in their base forms, Chibi Trunks and Goten are stated to be weaker than him. Gotenks wasn't stronger than Shinn Buu by a huge margin, or even a large one, but it was enough to gain the upper hand and keep it. He managed to keep Shin Buu on the defensive the whole way through, although not without difficulty.

Shin Buu is positioned correctly underneath SSJ3 Gotenks, but literally everything else would have to be shifted around for him to land in the right spot.

Fat Buu is stronger than Aku Buu. I believe I've mentioned before in this topic. The Buu that remained after Aku Buu (the Skinny Buu) was expelled was not Fat Buu. It was his Good counterpart, what remained after expelling the wrath within him. It is even stated that their powers were divided. Likewise, the Buu that fought Chibi Buu was not Fat Buu. Fat Buu ceases to exist, atleast in his original sense, upon expelling that evil.

Skinny Buu (Aku Buu) should be lower than Fat Buu, as I've explained. You can place the Good Buu under him, as it's sort of a separate form. It's certainly a weaker one.

You've exluded a lot of others who should have placed on that list too...i.e. SSJ Gotenks (pre and post RoSaT), and Buff Buu.

MSSJ Vegetto>>>Gohan Buu>>>Vegetto>>>Gotenks Buu>>>Chou Gohan>>>Buff Buu>>>SSJ3 Gotenks>>>Piccolo Buu>>>Shin Buu>>>SSJ Gotenks (Post RoSaT)>>>SSJ Gotenks (Pre RoSaT)>/=SSJ3 Goku>>>Fat Buu>>>Chibi Buu>/=Aku Buu>>>Good Buu

Basically.
 
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If I were to re-order that....actually, that's amazing. There literally isn't a single thing in that entire list that I wouldn't re-order. Like...Chou Gohan>>>Gohan Buu??? How is that even possible???

For starters, Vegetto never went Super Saiya-jin 2. This is confirmed by the fact that he a) only displayed a lightning charged aura in the initial power up, and appeared as a mastered Super Saiya-jin for the rest of the fight, and b) doesn't match Toriyama's theoretical sketches of a SSJ2 Vegetto.

Gogeta doesn't exist, really.

Chibi Buu is rather weak. He's, logically, the same type of base form as Aku Buu (Evil Buu/Skinny Buu), gave Goku less trouble than Fat Buu initially, and is even called "the Skinny Buu" at one point.

It is stated that at full power, SSJ3 Goku could "obliterate" Chibi Buu. I.e. Quite a bit stronger.

Chou Gohan displays a power that Goku states he didn't even know was possible...and in addition, makes child's play out of a form of Buu that Goku was terrified of fighting.

Gohan Buu is the strongest form of Buu. Probably the only individual in the series stronger than him is MSSJ Vegetto.

Gotenks Buu states clearly, upon first forming that he is the mightiest majin ever, past, present and future. All though "future" is proven wrong in a direct statement in which Gohan Buu testifies to being stronger than before, Majin Buu knows his own past...in addition, this form was clearly much stronger than Gohan. He nearly killed him, wasn't hurt at all in his fight, and even after Gohan is healed states that he is only back to his "former ineptitude".

I doubt Piccolo Buu is stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks. An increase from Piccolo would probably be so insignificant for Shin Buu, that you could barely tell the difference, and in their base forms, Chibi Trunks and Goten are stated to be weaker than him. Gotenks wasn't stronger than Shinn Buu by a huge margin, or even a large one, but it was enough to gain the upper hand and keep it. He managed to keep Shin Buu on the defensive the whole way through, although not without difficulty.

Shin Buu is positioned correctly underneath SSJ3 Gotenks, but literally everything else would have to be shifted around for him to land in the right spot.

Fat Buu is stronger than Aku Buu. I believe I've mentioned before in this topic. The Buu that remained after Aku Buu (the Skinny Buu) was expelled was not Fat Buu. It was his Good counterpart, what remained after expelling the wrath within him. It is even stated that their powers were divided. Likewise, the Buu that fought Chibi Buu was not Fat Buu. Fat Buu ceases to exist, atleast in his original sense, upon expelling that evil.

Skinny Buu (Aku Buu) should be lower than Fat Buu, as I've explained. You can place the Good Buu under him, as it's sort of a separate form. It's certainly a weaker one.

You've exluded a lot of others who should have placed on that list too...i.e. SSJ Gotenks (pre and post RoSaT), and Buff Buu.

MSSJ Vegetto>>>Gohan Buu>>>Vegetto>>>Gotenks Buu>>>Chou Gohan>>>Buff Buu>>>SSJ3 Gotenks>>>Piccolo Buu>>>Shin Buu>>>SSJ Gotenks (Post RoSaT)>>>SSJ Gotenks (Pre RoSaT)>/=SSJ3 Goku>>>Fat Buu>>>Chibi Buu>/=Aku Buu>>>Good Buu

Basically.
Pre-rosat Gotenks wouldn't stand a chance in hell of beating SSJ3 goku.
 
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We know for fact that Post-RoSaT SSJ Gotenks is stronger than him. Base Gotenks is already likely stronger than SSJ2 Majin Vegeta.

Goku was completely, totally confident that the fusion could defeat Buu for sure, and he never expected Super Saiya-jin 3. This is before their time in the RoSaT, and Goku himself had struggled with Fat Buu in his Super Saiya-jin 3 form. The only reason, really, that it was a bad idea for Gotenks to go off and fight Fat Buu was that his fusion was about to run down...

Pre RoSaT, SSJ Gotenks and SSJ3 Goku are probably pretty close in power. If I had to choose one, however, the evidence seems to point towards Gotenks.
 
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If I were to re-order that....actually, that's amazing. There literally isn't a single thing in that entire list that I wouldn't re-order. Like...Chou Gohan>>>Gohan Buu??? How is that even possible???

For starters, Vegetto never went Super Saiya-jin 2. This is confirmed by the fact that he a) only displayed a lightning charged aura in the initial power up, and appeared as a mastered Super Saiya-jin for the rest of the fight, and b) doesn't match Toriyama's theoretical sketches of a SSJ2 Vegetto.

Gogeta doesn't exist, really.

Chibi Buu is rather weak. He's, logically, the same type of base form as Aku Buu (Evil Buu/Skinny Buu), gave Goku less trouble than Fat Buu initially, and is even called "the Skinny Buu" at one point.

It is stated that at full power, SSJ3 Goku could "obliterate" Chibi Buu. I.e. Quite a bit stronger.

Chou Gohan displays a power that Goku states he didn't even know was possible...and in addition, makes child's play out of a form of Buu that Goku was terrified of fighting.

Gohan Buu is the strongest form of Buu. Probably the only individual in the series stronger than him is MSSJ Vegetto.

Gotenks Buu states clearly, upon first forming that he is the mightiest majin ever, past, present and future. All though "future" is proven wrong in a direct statement in which Gohan Buu testifies to being stronger than before, Majin Buu knows his own past...in addition, this form was clearly much stronger than Gohan. He nearly killed him, wasn't hurt at all in his fight, and even after Gohan is healed states that he is only back to his "former ineptitude".

I doubt Piccolo Buu is stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks. An increase from Piccolo would probably be so insignificant for Shin Buu, that you could barely tell the difference, and in their base forms, Chibi Trunks and Goten are stated to be weaker than him. Gotenks wasn't stronger than Shinn Buu by a huge margin, or even a large one, but it was enough to gain the upper hand and keep it. He managed to keep Shin Buu on the defensive the whole way through, although not without difficulty.

Shin Buu is positioned correctly underneath SSJ3 Gotenks, but literally everything else would have to be shifted around for him to land in the right spot.

Fat Buu is stronger than Aku Buu. I believe I've mentioned before in this topic. The Buu that remained after Aku Buu (the Skinny Buu) was expelled was not Fat Buu. It was his Good counterpart, what remained after expelling the wrath within him. It is even stated that their powers were divided. Likewise, the Buu that fought Chibi Buu was not Fat Buu. Fat Buu ceases to exist, atleast in his original sense, upon expelling that evil.

Skinny Buu (Aku Buu) should be lower than Fat Buu, as I've explained. You can place the Good Buu under him, as it's sort of a separate form. It's certainly a weaker one.

You've exluded a lot of others who should have placed on that list too...i.e. SSJ Gotenks (pre and post RoSaT), and Buff Buu.

MSSJ Vegetto>>>Gohan Buu>>>Vegetto>>>Gotenks Buu>>>Chou Gohan>>>Buff Buu>>>SSJ3 Gotenks>>>Piccolo Buu>>>Shin Buu>>>SSJ Gotenks (Post RoSaT)>>>SSJ Gotenks (Pre RoSaT)>/=SSJ3 Goku>>>Fat Buu>>>Chibi Buu>/=Aku Buu>>>Good Buu

Basically.
Dude You can't say that about Vegetto he had lighing like the rest it look like SSJ 2 lighing even his hair look like SSJ 2
and KidBuu was stronger then fatbuu and skyny buu because he powned fatbuu and Vegeta sayid that his power leve it's incresing, and Fatbuu and Skiny buu when they separetet the Skiny buu take most of his power because he was evil about 75% of his power and I think fighing KidBuu they gain more power that will explain how they survive
this is how it suld be baseid on manga
1)SSJ2 or SSJ Vegetto
2)GohanBuu
3)Vegetto
4)Gotenks Buu
5)Mystic Gohan
6)SSJ3 Goku
7)KidBuu
8)SuperBuu
9)SSJ3 Gotenks
10)skyniBuu
 
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Kid Buu never fought Fat Buu. Ever.

He fought Good Buu. Who is far less than even half of Fat Buu's power.

And MSSJ Vegetto only displayed lightning once, in the initial power up. The entire fight there was not a single spark surrounding him, and he didn't have SSJ2 hair. He wasn't Super Saiya-jin 2.

And once again, Goku stated that him and Vegeta together would be killed if they fought Super Buu. It was stated that at full power Goku could "obliterate" Kid Buu. Thus, Super Buu is A LOT stronger than the other two.
 
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Yes I remeber that when they was insed Buu Goku sayid he will have no chanse agains SuperBuu so here it's how is Buu
SuperBuu(200% power)>>kidBuu(125% power)>>EvilBuu(evil Buu 75% power)>>FatBuu (Good Buu)(25% of power)
so this mean's so the list suld look like this
1)Vegetto
2)Buu
3)MysticGohan
4)SSJ3Gotenks
5)SSJ3 Goku
6)SSJ 2 Vegeta
7)Cell
8)Piccolo
9)A16
10)A17

Because there transfomation does not cont only the bigets of their max Transfomation
 
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Buu's forms aren't transformations actually, they're separate forms, beings, and absorbtions. Thus, all Majin Buu, but defined separately as individuals as well.Z

But you're learning a lot about it very quickly, to give you some credit. =)
 

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