they are correct, krillin is one of the least powerful people in the game even if he does have a high pl when he transes. he maybe fast but thats all he has, he doesnt get a suped up ability when he transes, and the abilities he has got arnt exactly great, so compared to somone like vegeta or anyone else he is realativly weak in teh end
actually sccatering beam when tranformed can take out half your oponents
not really if your paying attention, its a semi slow moving attack. but compared to say special beam cannon its slow and less powerful
Basicly ESF is still perfectly balanced
If we put a noob Krillin (transformed) against a pro Trunks (not transformed)
So Krillin will have 8 million PL but he is only as ussefull as the player controling him (in other words Trunks will win)
Scattering Beam and Krillin’s Transed Speed are his two main advantages, but that he doesn’t compare to Buu, then again, nobody does because Buu’s overpowered 
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yah they need to make mouth blast less powerful and slow him down a bit O_O
Thanks for all the answer guys, I am still new to the ESF Game. This is for Grega, You say if a pro control’s Trunks he’ll win, but what if a pro picks Klylin then you’re outnumbered. Klylin’s kamehame ha can push back Vegeta’s Final Flash and the spirit ball.
Gokou
Starting Power Level: 750.000
Max Health: 110
Max Speed: 216
Transformation Power Level: 1.750.000
Perfect Transformation
Power Level: 5.000.000
Max Health: 120
Max Speed: 280
Klylin
Starting Power Level: 600.000
Max Health: 100
Max Speed: 180
Transformation Power Level: 3.000.000
Perfect Transformation
Power Level: 8.000.000
Max Health: 150
Max Speed: 350
Look at this Power Level, in normal mode Gokou is stronger and faster but Klylin surpasses Gokou even in normal Transformation or Perfect Transformation. Even Klylin’s speed is +170 no wonder he’s fast. Klylin is very dangerous if he get’s into the right hands.
yes but the problem is X that unless you know how to lvl your pl fast, krillin is somewhat pointless in the hands ofa newb. in the hands of an expert on teh other hand he is good.
Thanks Prince Trunks I’m glad you know what I’m saying. Expert Trunks vs Expert Klylin is equals to Expert Klylin 8/10. I hope ESF will change Klylin’s PL and tone it down.
X you aren’t understanding, power level is not determined by character, it’s determined by how well the player plays. If a pro has krillin and gets him transformed everybody is doomed, but they’d be doomed if he was Goku or Buu too, they’re just a… different kind of doomed. The point is that before he transforms he’s the weakest and slowest character in ESF.
Sorry man If I am getting kinda annoying, But I only recently downloaded ESF last Feb. 2005. What I am only trying to say is that Klylin is just like a saiyan in first he got pushed around but when he trans he is a hell lot stronger. Many of my friends picks Klylin over Trunks and Piccolo.
He is stronge however, he is slow to begin with, has very little ability in game for new comers, i meen im an intermediate and it takes me half teh game to get him to trans, and aths with constant meleeing, so he is balanced intot eh game even if he is stronegr than should be.
this is the most pointless thred I have ever seen. :S :S
Your all forgetting you can set mp_plcatchup 1 to mp_plcatchup 0
it doesnt even matter in 1.3 krillin will go back to being weak as can be and thats how it should be along with everyone who isnt a sayian except piccolo frieza cell and buu (speaking of witch you can’t make buu weaker then he already is they gave it no chance in the show. (BUU IS THE ULTIMATE BAD GUY.))
You don’t understand what I am trying to say here, I am saying that Klylin is a very strong character and his PL should be tone down, because he is very strong, Gokou, Vegeta, Trunks and Piccolo is no match to Klylin’s PL. Me and my friends tested that Klylin can push back Spirit Ball, Kamehame Ha, Final Flash, SBC, Finish Buster, most of the attacks can be pushed back without using “T”. Klylin’s kamehame ha is very powerful and he is the most fastest if you will look at their speed it’s about 350, the most highest of them all. I hope ESF will tone down the power of Klylin.
It doesn’t really matter if he has a high PL. If you’re a decent player, then it should be very easy to take down Krillin. And it is, transformed or not. The fact is, that before he transforms, he’s a weak character. So to balance that out, his trans is powerful, but still, it doesn’t take a God to beat him.
Maybe you can’t beat your friends when they play as Krillin because you’re just bad?
You don’t understand what I am trying to say here, I am saying that Klylin is a very strong character and his PL should be tone down, because he is very strong, Gokou, Vegeta, Trunks and Piccolo is no match to Klylin’s PL. Me and my friends tested that Klylin can push back Spirit Ball, Kamehame Ha, Final Flash, SBC, Finish Buster, most of the attacks can be pushed back without using “T”. Klylin’s kamehame ha is very powerful and he is the most fastest if you will look at their speed it’s about 350, the most highest of them all. I hope ESF will tone down the power of Klylin.
x-boy why are you ignoring everyone!?
krillin has no where NEAR a high pl he starts off at 600,000 for gods sakes ANYONE will have a high pl when they transform at 3 million pl
after krillin transes he gains pl REALLY slowly so like i said before he can be EASILY SURPASSED BY AN SSJ
For Scruffie I’m not saying I’m not good at playing ESF. Me and my friends tested their powers that means I’m not fighting them, were just testing who is the most powerful and I also noticed that Trunks is weaker than Klylin even his burning attack has no chance on a power struggle against Klylin, and now they are telling me that it’s balanced. I am sorry if I made everyone angry but I just wanted to say what I know, so maybe the ESF Team will read this topic.
Krillin transforms slowly. As a matter of fact, his trans is the slowest in the game. Trunks is the earliest trans in the game. Trunks will trans and completly destroy Krillin before he has a chance to get anywhere NEAR transforming. This is in the hands of 2 equally skilled players, and this is how it will happen every time.
Why’re you PSing anything at all? It’s really quite rare to get into a PS, and I’m not even going to ask how or why you PSed a fully charged KHH with a burning attack and expected to win, at all. Look at charge time- You can fire a burning attack fully charged before a KHH has a chance to even fire. That combined with a higher base PL and usually higher overall PL, trunks will win the PS when both sides put the same amount of charging in, every time.
Krillin’s trans is a reward, for using a sluggish ****ty charecter for so long and preservering.
Even if you don’t power struggle Klylin’s speed is equal when they are not in a trans, And in an actual battle many of my friends pick Klylin over Trunks because Trunks is so slow and even if you fire his burning it would do just a little damage. The only way for Trunks to win is if a Pro Player picks him and a newbie picks Klylin.
no, in a pro vs pro battle with those two it be impossible to know who would win, while trunks may not be extreamly fast he can port, trans over and over and when e isnt transed he gains a much higher amount of ki per hitting a person, so krillin isnt really that uber he just has raw speed, which should be lowerd a bit adn trunkes uped a bit