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Er... it would just be faster to kill as Vegeta rather than gain pl then change chars... Besides, as base Vegeta, you can still do melee, and also, Galit Gun isn't too horrible, + Vegeta's Renzoku works decent after a throw or power hit into the ground.

lol well said

Honestly, ppl shouldn't critisize beam spamming, melee spamming, throw spamming, etc because it's part of the game. It's like the camping of counter-strike. And besides, there is a counter to them. Why do ppl hate them so much anywaz? There are easy ways to stop beam and melee spammers...

Maybe you guys should just compare Bodoukai 2 with GT Final Bout...

The ESF team have a life besides coding for ESF you know...

thx alot! That helped tonz!

When you kill someone with a significantly higher pl than you, you get a big pl bonus when you kill them. My question is, if the person is transformed, do you get more pl when you kill them while their transformed opposed to when their in their base form. Or do you just gain bonus pl from...

I have a dedicated server running but I wanna give my friend access to the console. How do I do that? I want him to be able to do kicks and bans from his own console. Is that what the rcon password is for? If not, what is rcon for? Thx. BTW I don't have any admin or amx mods. Just a normal server.

Another thing you could do is create a dedicated server on your comp and then on the same comp play ESF in your server. And yes, you can do it. Steam lets you do it, unlike WON which didn't let you play from the same comp.

Well I guess they could make esf maps where the Z-Fighters have to get to an escape point just like es maps in CS, although the map will have to be pretty complicated for it to work... or the collect dragonballs thing although some changes will have to be made to the dragonballs.

Well maybe CTDB might work as capture the flag... I dunno... But Capture the flag IS a good idea!

Angry newbies also mess w/ your console and change your name to stupid stuff...

But there's 5 Z-fighters and 4 baddies... and that's w/ Vegeta on bad... what happens when the server only allows 1 of each model? Wouldn't that be unbalanced teams?

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I was thinking, since beta 1.2 adds walljumping (which currently doesn't really have a use now since you can fly, beam jump, etc.) what the ESF team could do is when chars are not charging up, using turbo, or charging up an attack, they don't show up on the radar. That way walking, wall...