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that is 0... but i noticed when i make games... it says joing local game server or something like that... but i dont have lan checked and the other thing is set to 0.... does it say that for everyone?

sorry i posted on 2 completely different days... if i just edit the post it wouldnt go back to the top and i wouldnt get my question answered... but do i do it in the counsel?

i opened up the ports and its still not working...

is there a range of ports or no?

nah I made sure the lan box wasnt checked... and yes i went out and bought halflife myself just for esf... i duno what else it could be

How come when I or one of my friends make a game... we cant get it to come up on the list... we give each other the ip and I'll add it to my favorites.. but it wont show up... ne suggestions?