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~*Logan*~
Aug 30th, 2004, 02:14 PM
How are the game administrators going about cracking down on cheaters and hackers and the like? One in particular, Devil (using several different names now), is becoming a real pain these days. I just feel that its time something needs to be done about this. -_-

joachim g
Aug 30th, 2004, 05:55 PM
well theres no way to stop hackers... unless you go over to everyone check for hax on their comp and if they have some they take away the hackers internet connection :fight:
i dont think theres even 1 weirdo around here who thinks about doing that :rolleyes:
best you can do is get some (good) anti cheat software

RavenTrunks
Aug 30th, 2004, 06:24 PM
an intergraded anti cheat shouldnt be hard to do, just find the data hacks put out and program esf to either ignore it or boot the player giving out the data stream

Sonic the Vampire
Aug 30th, 2004, 06:53 PM
Data has been a problem for well over a year now. If it was as easy as just logging data we would have done it. Unless the server admins themselves step up and take an active role in protecting their servers from people like Devil they're free to do whatever they want.

Fire Phoenix
Aug 30th, 2004, 06:57 PM
Devil isn't as much of a pain any more as you say he is. I hear he doesn't play. Because of 1.2.1 he can't use his crashing hack or his freeze hack. or w/e it really is. But if he is bothersom for you. Just leave the server and go to another one with out saying anything. Simple as that.

~*Logan*~
Aug 30th, 2004, 06:58 PM
Shame...considering people know devil is a hacker for sure is even worse. I figured I could take a screenie of him admitting he hacks and send it to the admins or something. Guess that idea is out. BAH I say...BAH! >.<

Fire Phoenix
Aug 30th, 2004, 07:06 PM
Of course they know he's a hacker there is a thread or 2 completely dedicated to him. All about his won and steam id's thing's he's done. But seeing as devil doesnt talk i dont see how you can get a screenie of him admitting it. the only way really is when he says "Freeze" and the server crashes

~*Logan*~
Aug 30th, 2004, 07:15 PM
Of course they know he's a hacker there is a thread or 2 completely dedicated to him. All about his won and steam id's thing's he's done. But seeing as devil doesnt talk i dont see how you can get a screenie of him admitting it. the only way really is when he says "Freeze" and the server crashes

he talks. just rarely. he was using the name Tendrill when he talked about working on a new Aimbot and ESP.

SaiyanPrideXIX
Aug 30th, 2004, 10:40 PM
I got him to talk once about why he did it. He just said basically that it was more fun that way.

Then he said he was really really young. Otherwise, (disincluding "freeze" of course), I never saw a word out of him.

Fire Phoenix
Aug 30th, 2004, 11:35 PM
he talks. just rarely. he was using the name Tendrill when he talked about working on a new Aimbot and ESP.

And you know this is Devil how?

~*Logan*~
Aug 31st, 2004, 12:16 AM
And you know this is Devil how?

He said so himself.

Zeonix
Aug 31st, 2004, 12:17 AM
Devil generally doesnt scream out the fact that hes devil. I dont know what you're complaining about. I havent seen Devil in-game for a while. When he is in-game, he just beam spams.

Smith|
Aug 31st, 2004, 12:25 AM
There's a couple devils out there. I've seen one with just lowercase and one with all uppercase, both of which just have that name and know nothing of his history.

I've seen 0 server crashing dealing with that old exploit so far.

thenamekman
Aug 31st, 2004, 12:32 AM
Something is roung with hackers some thing in there head that gos crazy then thet start cheating in every thing even life just like that devil guy i just hate hackers aswell.

MysticUub
Aug 31st, 2004, 01:06 AM
i know devil...he doesnt play anymore...he lost interest in ESF...beleive it or not he loved the game...up untill 1.2...

he also didnt just crash servers for no reason like so many of u guys make it seem...90% of the time he crashed the server because 1.) he was kicked for beating ppl...2.) he was kicked for no reason...or 3.) he had beef with someone in the server...

yea i know there's no excuse for ruining ppls fun...but seriously..its a game...he shouldnt have let things bother him that much but u shouldnt either...besides...when a game is as easy to crash as 1.0 and 1.1 were (all u had to do was type random words...i.e. yellow...into console to make it crash) ur gonna have ppl that use that to their advantage...

p.s...namek...dude...u might wanna change the spelling of the city u live in to Slidell...u missin an 'i' =p

IMPORTED_SSJG3_VEGETA_SSJ
Aug 31st, 2004, 02:23 AM
uh... Devil did crash servers for no reason. He is a prick. He use to go around crashing every server on steam one by one so no one could play esf. He use to do that for hours (literaly, he would just do that for hours). Why the hell are people defending him?

SaiyanPrideXIX
Aug 31st, 2004, 02:55 AM
People are stupid.

Devil crashed all the servers that he could, all the time. Why are we even still talking about him? He's not even around anymore.

Snow
Aug 31st, 2004, 02:55 AM
uh... Devil did crash servers for no reason. He is a prick. He use to go around crashing every server on steam one by one so no one could play esf. He use to do that for hours (literaly, he would just do that for hours). Why the hell are people defending him?

Because your talking out of your ass. For one any moron could crash a server in 1.0/1.1 buy typing random things or binding alot of things at once. And sence none of you morons knew or know devil you never knew for sure if it wad "the" devil or just some random guy so to make it easy, you all just assumed it was him.

And like uub said devil has not played esf in months, i could randomly name every person who has/know how to crash a server in 1.2, but i like them alot more the you. And for all you morons, if about him bragging about an esf aimbot/esf; its not mutch to brag about sence any cs hack will work for esf cuz its hl mod.

SaiyanPrideXIX
Aug 31st, 2004, 03:10 AM
That was just frigging uncalled for Snowjob.

And it's ****heads like you that keep the big Green C-Monster and the rest of the forum staff in business.

On topic, I don't really care if "Devil" or whoever is your boyfriend or not. Cheating, crashing games, and being an annoying **** is aggravating and uncalled for.

And it's not all that different from that last post you made, either, Snowjob.

SSJ Shin Carl
Aug 31st, 2004, 03:19 AM
Devil isn't as much of a pain any more as you say he is. I hear he doesn't play. Because of 1.2.1 he can't use his crashing hack or his freeze hack. or w/e it really is. But if he is bothersom for you. Just leave the server and go to another one with out saying anything. Simple as that.

You act like its SOOO easy to find a good server in esf.

imported_TwisteR
Aug 31st, 2004, 03:26 AM
Yea well...it is. Lets keep it on topic, and watch the flaming guys.

Draylock1
Aug 31st, 2004, 03:26 AM
Yeah **** off today someone with wallhack was in ToM Spamming with ******* blast because he didnt see the leaves and he could hit you. **** that.

Saiyan keep your mouth shut you little girl. Little prick, your the one who posts against everything even know you don't play esf. Go get a life, you can probably but one at hottopic now, they have everything else. Since I've already been warned I'd like to add more by calling your so called Signature with your cool Halorin quotes. calm down there hardcore, we know halorin said a good quote or two, but that was definatly a douchequote. And I would like to make it loud and clear that you do not play esf and you should say that in every single topic you post in. If you hadn't said anything I wouldn't be typing right now but you had to be a douche, again, on every single thread I've been on you are there, ruining it.

Who the hell runs the 1.2.1 servers anyways? Those are so garbage. <-- this is my on topic post! hi

imported_TwisteR
Aug 31st, 2004, 03:28 AM
Ok, contestant #1 (Draylock1) gets a warning for flaming.

Snow
Aug 31st, 2004, 03:38 AM
That was just frigging uncalled for Snowjob.

And it's ****heads like you that keep the big Green C-Monster and the rest of the forum staff in business.

On topic, I don't really care if "Devil" or whoever is your boyfriend or not. Cheating, crashing games, and being an annoying **** is aggravating and uncalled for.

And it's not all that different from that last post you made, either, Snowjob.

And its stupid ****s such as your self that keep hackers in business.

oh and on a side not, i dont think i have ever been warned by the big green c-monster or any fourm staff untill now.

Phatslugga
Aug 31st, 2004, 03:38 AM
Regardless of why he did it.... He has no right to do it. He's a little prick that needs to grow up and stop holding grudges over a game. If you defend Devil and give me some crappy excuse then you're just an idiot, I don't care if I get warned. He doesn't need any of you to talk for him, he can represent himself, and there's nothing he can possibly say that would justify his reasons for cheating or crashing servers. I was in the same server as dray today with the wallhacker... and it was annoying, not nearly as annoying as the crashes back in 1.1, but annoying none the less.

I have the ID of the hacker, and his two clanmembers. I'll give them to anyone that wants to ban them from their server. Just PM me, or contact me on AIM.

imported_TwisteR
Aug 31st, 2004, 03:41 AM
And its stupid ****s such as your self that keep hackers in business.

oh and on a side not, i dont think i have ever been warned by the big green c-monster or any fourm staff untill now.
And contestant #2 (Snow1586) gets a warning for flaming.

IMPORTED_SSJG3_VEGETA_SSJ
Aug 31st, 2004, 03:41 AM
Because your talking out of your ass. For one any moron could crash a server in 1.0/1.1 buy typing random things or binding alot of things at once. And sence none of you morons knew or know devil you never knew for sure if it wad "the" devil or just some random guy so to make it easy, you all just assumed it was him.

And like uub said devil has not played esf in months, i could randomly name every person who has/know how to crash a server in 1.2, but i like them alot more the you. And for all you morons, if about him bragging about an esf aimbot/esf; its not mutch to brag about sence any cs hack will work for esf cuz its hl mod.

...

Heh, you do realize what you just said makes no sense. They're defending devil because of something I didn't say yet? Right... And I wasn't talking out of my ass man. Someone went around constantly crashing servers in 1.1, if it was devil or not I could care less. If it was devil, the guys a prick. If it wasn't, he's still a prick for using hacks.

MysticUub
Aug 31st, 2004, 03:49 AM
hahahahahahahahahahaahaha....*runs around like an idiot cause apparently i am one weeeeee*

*ON-TOPIC*
honestly...theres one of 3 ways u can look at the whole devil situation...

1.) OMGZOR HE CRASHES SERVERS SO HE'S A NOOBISH BUSH WACKING PRICK
2.) LoL...this dude is pitiful...meh..o well its only a game after all
3.) Man...if it wasnt for this guy a lot of the faults of the old code wouldnt have been found

now for the last one...u guys are prolly gonna flame the hell outta me...but honestly...if it wasnt for devil...or the wanna-be-devils out there...the holes that were in the code that allowed the servers to crash so easily would have never been found...

thats usually how things happen with security issues anyway isnt it?....most of the time ppl dont know about holes in the "stability" of code until its exploited for malitious reasons...and then the team/whoever fixes it...

IMPORTED_SSJG3_VEGETA_SSJ
Aug 31st, 2004, 03:51 AM
If it wasn't for devil, the faults in the code wouldn't need to be found. Also, if it wasn't for devil, there wouldn't be any devil wannabes or people that copy him.

MysticUub
Aug 31st, 2004, 04:00 AM
if it wasnt for devil it woulda been some other person that woulda come along and started all this crap...there are ppl like this in every game/mod...countless numbers in CS...DOD...NS...all games...the point is...get over it...so what...he crashed servers...whooptie freakin doo....u ppl act like he commited a mortal sin or somehthin and should be cast into the bowels of hell because he ruined a GAME for u...really...if u ppl would just leave him alone...and just accept the fact that there are ppl like that in the gaming world...his copy catters would go away...the reason y they do it is because it gets a rise out of u guys...just ignore it like u would a 2 year old throwing a temper tantrum and they will eventually leave and forget about it all...

KarrdeKNR
Aug 31st, 2004, 05:13 AM
I don't think this thread really has a point. The stroy of Devil, etc has been recounted a zillion times. Every game has it's lamers, it's just something you deal with. As stated, if ppl wanted to do something, it's up to the server admins to help out. Other than that, I don't see how this thread really has any use.

*Closed*

-Karrde-