Kid/Teen Gohan Suggestions

Seeing as there are going to be two Gohans, Kid/Teen and Adult, and they're going to have their seperate sets of trans' and moves, I thought of one for Enraged Kid/Teen Gohan, he uses renzoku against 2nd Form Frieza in Episode 065 - Gohan Attacks. This could then be upgraded to <a href="http://forum.esforces.com/showthread.php?t=48337
">this move</a> when SSJ2 is reached.

Also, in the same episode he fires Masenko as a ball, so I think it should be a beam/ball with primary/secondary fire.

And Krillin throws three smaller destructo discs from the same hand, which spread out in a rough triangle, I thought maybe that could be Krillins trans move or something.

yea, I was thinking that kid Gohan SSJ2 transformation be more powerful than teen gohan since in the series when he grows up he is weaker than when he was a kid since he hadnt trained in 7 years, then he gets a nice power boost when he turns mystic , which kid gohan doesnt have

I'm a bit confused as to what the team mean by 'Adult Gohan',

I see it as:

'Kid' (under 12) Saiyan-2-Trunks Saga
<img src="http://www.geocities.com/ele_kid/gohan15.gif">

'Teen' (12-18) Androids-2-Cell Games Saga
<img src="http://chefjeff4.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/gohan2.gif">

'Adult' (18-25) Cell Games-2-Kid Buu Saga
<img src="http://napalmcandy.net/sbl/images/mysticgohan.jpg">

'GT Adult' (25+) Dragonball GT
<img src="http://gendbz.bizland.com/gtgohan.jpg">

All ages are approximations The current Gohan model is what I class as 'Teen' and will have the forms; Normal-Rage-SSJ1-SSJ2, and the 'Adult' Gohan will have Normal-SSJ1-SSJ2-Mystic.

Yeah thats how I envision Gohan as kid/teen/adult. I do think rage is a very bad trans. and also taking off the weighted clothes. Piccolo and Goku trained for years with the weighted clothing and the difference without it was a few hundred (in the saiyan saga) as far as we know the weight of the clothes hasn't changed since the saiyan saga so the difference should remain pretty similar. Gohan only wore the weighted cape for the 10 days between the hyperbaulic time chamber and the cell games and he actually takes it off for most of that time. So taking off the cape would have little to absolutely no effect on Gohan's pl and speed etc.
I think instead of rage, you have a kid gohan in the first pic of the last post as the first trans, then the current model then ssj and finally ssj2.

Oh, my its not good that the characters and attacks are only from the series. Remember Movie 09 - Bojack, and see what power Gohan has.

Yes, it was basically the same as the Cell Games, he went SSJ2 and he kicked punched and blasted all the underlings and then after a short fight with Bojack he killed him.

In the Frieza Saga, Gohan learns how to control his Rage to powerup when he wishes (he shows this to Frieza in ep 68), but when he goes SSJ he forgets until his rage is reawakened by #16's head.

Are you sure he learnt to control his rage? I thought it was awakening hidden powers. which was the same as what Old Kai did except Guru didn't do as thorough a job.
Gohan never learns to control his rage. After Frieza saga he slumps back into his inability to control rage. After the Cell games he forgets this ability (as seen in his fight with Bojack. If he could control it he would have unleashed it immediately) Old Kai's training was only about unveiling hidden powers, it had nothing to do with rage.
This may sound like a bad idea but here goes. When Gohan is in his first form he has a move called Rage. it takes a bit of time to charge it and getting it to the minimum level gives Gohan say a minute of rage (these numbers are just examples) While in rage Gohan has a very high power level and is very strong and very fast plus his ki drains much slower than while not in rage (say half of what it normally costs.) Rage ends if he takes a severe hit or when the timer runs out. Usually after rage ends Gohan is very drained so the after effects of this technique is that Gohan's speed/power is weakened somewhat for a certain time (say as long as the rage technique lasted) Rage has a 5 minute cool down period where it can't be used. After transforming into ssj or ssj2. The move cannot be used.

I don't know about controlling it in the same way that Goku can control being a Super Saiyan, but in that episode after he'd become Enraged and Renzoku'd Frieza, Vegeta asks Gohan what happened to all his power, Frieza gets back up and Gohan powers up once again (red aura) and blasts Frieza, but he dodges it and then kicks Gohan in the chest.

The thing that Guru does to Krillin and Gohan is a bit different to what Ancient Kai does to Gohan, Guru's thing is to Unlock the fighters Potential, so they don't hold back anything (even if they don't realise they had the strength or that they were holding it back) but Ancient Kai's thing involved a 23 hour dance and meditation ceremony to create the Mystic Form, which is a different form but without any physical or psychological changes.

I'd be fine with you idea of Rage as a move, but Teen Gohan needs 3 trans' and I don't like the idea of him rapidly ageing like Krillin does.

Maybe Rage trans could have a high ki cost (like SSJ3) but a low required powerlevel seeing as he does Rage in the 2nd episode of DBZ.

OR

Have it become available for 30 seconds every time a team mate is killed, to represent the Rage.

I see what you mean about the power unleashing thing.
But as Gohan proves everytime he goes into his rage mode, he seems to draw ki from an endless supply so draining ki rapidly doesn't seem to work well, and for the second idea. in non-team games Gohan's rage would be un-useable and if team mates all suddenly die the boost would be enormous, I'm not a fan of the second one.
He does need a 3rd trans though. How about a form after ssj2? When he used the KHH he used to beat Cell, he was coached by Goku, against Bojack, the power to beat him came from Goku's encouragement. Perhaps a level where Gohan is motivated by Goku (would make a cool animation!) to unleash his full power and not hold back anything.
You could change Gohan's regular KHH into a super KHH (Goku uses this technique somewhere in dbz, can't remember exactly) you could say that the KHH that beat Cell was of the super type.

I think at ssj2, gohan should have access to the most powerful beam attack second to none, maybe only tied with the final flash.

the super kamehameha would be a good attack. its power would make good compensation for his lack of decent atacks.

Yeah because after characters like Vegeta and Goku transform. Gohan's KHH is no longer strong enough for a decent beam battle. He does need some ultimate move that keeps him in competition with the other characters.

Rocky87 said:

I see what you mean about the power unleashing thing.
But as Gohan proves everytime he goes into his rage mode, he seems to draw ki from an endless supply so draining ki rapidly doesn't seem to work well, and for the second idea. in non-team games Gohan's rage would be un-useable and if team mates all suddenly die the boost would be enormous, I'm not a fan of the second one.
He does need a 3rd trans though. How about a form after ssj2? When he used the KHH he used to beat Cell, he was coached by Goku, against Bojack, the power to beat him came from Goku's encouragement. Perhaps a level where Gohan is motivated by Goku (would make a cool animation!) to unleash his full power and not hold back anything.
You could change Gohan's regular KHH into a super KHH (Goku uses this technique somewhere in dbz, can't remember exactly) you could say that the KHH that beat Cell was of the super type.

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Goku to unleash his full power? Where that happens? I know something like that in the first movie with Brolly(in the end), or when he launches the Kamehameha on the Cell's some-kinda-spirit-bomb.

Since when is kid gohan getting rage as a trans? Im pretty sure hes just gonna have ssj and ssj2. I thought his pl multiplier and speed were gonna be a bit higher than the others to make up for his lack of a third trans.

I never heard that, but I heard that ALL saiyans were getting 3 trans', I assume that means half-saiyans too.

Goku to unleash his full power? Where that happens?

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Cell Games, Goku's dead but he encourages Gohan to bring out the last of his power, power he never even knew he had, he does and Gohan obliterates Cell.
also
Broly's Second Movie (Movie 10) Gohan and Goten inadvertadely wish for Goku to give them the power to beat Broly, and comes back to add power to their kamehameha, he encourages them to bring out whats left of their power, they do, Broly is killed, and the dragonballs scatter. However Goku never actually added his own power, it was his encouragement to Gohan and Goten that did it.

I think having SSJ-SSJ2-SSJ2+Goku's Encouragement like Rocky said would be better than Rage.

yeah but Goku's encouragement just sounds.....lame.

"Goku's encouragement" is ***. Just give him the extra pl multiplier and speed.....jeez. A third trans for kid gohan isnt that important..

I actually think its a pretty good idea. I wasn't sure at first but it seems to make sense since without Goku's help Gohan never realises his full potential.

Im sorry but Im just going off the very st post on this page where it stated that there would be a kid/teen gohan and an adult gohan. Yeah um is this in an official post from the esf team? Can someone put the link here I would just like to see it for myself
Thankyou

It is official but I'm not sure where the official post was. Try doing a search in the suggestions forum. I'm sure one of the mod's posted it there.